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Kodak Technical Pan

Jason Berge

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Hi All.

I am looking for Kodak Technical Pan in 120 format or 4x5. I have done the obvious search on eBay, and turned up a good amount, but thought I would ask here if any one here had any that they wanted to sell.

Wanted for a personal project, not sure how much I need, but will see what turns up I guess.

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Jason Berge.
 

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good luck
"...hey diggers, anybody got some gold to give away ??.... ". just kidding...
 
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good luck
"...hey diggers, anybody got some gold to give away ??.... ". just kidding...

I know you were kidding, but I hope that is not the attitude people will take. Plans change, and sometimes people don't want things they have put aside for a project, and so are willing to part with it so others can make use of it.

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Jason.
 

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Hi Jason:
Just a heads up.
You might get a polite note from a moderator that mentions the rule that posts of this type ("Want to Buy") are supposed to only be placed in that part of the Classifieds that are reserved for paid subscribers.
Given that you are new here, I doubt that anyone will be likely to complain.
Good luck in your search.
 
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Hi Matt,

Didn't know about the subscription, so have just done that. Apologies for posting in the wrong area. I will move the post to the wanted to buy thread.

Cheers,
Jason.
 

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You might consider an alternative.
That would be its technically advanced successor Rollei ATP with its propriatory developer.

A second alternative would be the Adox CMS 20, also with dedicated developer.
This film is available in 4x5" too.
 
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You might consider an alternative.
That would be its technically advanced successor Rollei ATP with its propriatory developer.

A second alternative would be the Adox CMS 20, also with dedicated developer.
This film is available in 4x5" too.

Thanks for that,

I was not aware of the comparison drawn between the two alternatives you mention and TechPan. I have been out of the film game for a while, as I mentioned in the "Introduce your self thread" so have a lot of catching up to do.

I note that whilst they seem to have similar resolving abilities, they don't have the same spectral sensitivity. It is the extended red sensitivity of TechPan (up to 720nm) that gives skin a unique look that I fondly remember from my student days.

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Jason.
 

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The ATP goes up far into the red, further and and with higher sensitivity than the TP (Kodak Technical Pan).
 
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The ATP goes up far into the red, further and and with higher sensitivity than the TP (Kodak Technical Pan).
Hi AgX,

Do you have any more information on this?

I have found a Rollie data sheet from 2007 that states the spectral response is "spectral sensitivity from 370 up to 700nm".

I hope you are right, but this looks pretty definitive, what leads you to think otherwise? Have you done some tests?

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Great to know, thanks for the link. As I said, I have some catching up to do. I did do a search but only found the 2007 data. Obviously things have changed.

It now seems there is an alternative to TechPan with similar characteristics, or is there? Am I right in thinking that this film is also not available new / hard to find. It seems confusing as B&H list it, but it is twice the price of Macodirect, but they have the wrong photo on their listing (ATO).

I am sure I will figure it out in the end. The main problem I have is that being in New Zealand, the shipping is a killer, so it only makes sense to buy online in large quantities. Buying one or two rolls here and there doesn't make sense, as the shipping can be more than the film. But I don't want to make a multi hundred dollar mistake.

More research needed!!!

Thank you to all who have / will chime in on this, it is appreciated.

Regards,
Jason.
 

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The current ATP data sheet says the sensitivity is 370 to 820;

Maco have a long history of publishing data sheets with mixed-up information. The above is not true.

The Kodak Technical Pan also has an elevated blue sensitivity, what its german successor has not.
 

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I shot a lot of Tech Pan when I was working for Sprint Systems of Photography. If I recall correctly, my experiments with that film were co-incident with Sprint's desire to have a footprint within the spectrum of digital photography that was a so new (at that time) and seemed to be coming on so strongly. I think I was working on what we thought would be a "product" that might be called..."Scan-Tastic". The idea, as most may be able to suss out, was to have a product that bridged chemical/digital workflows and would give Sprint a footprint in the "Digital Darkroom" that seemed to be coming sooner than management had realized. "Scan Tastic" was to be the developer of choice, with Tech Pan, to provide the best scannable negative to scan in order to obtain a file to print out an acceptable digital print. Sprint sent me up to Jon Cone in Topsham, Vermont to see what might be done along these lines.

I never did evaluate that film for spectral sensitivity. I came up against reciprocity effects when using apertures that were intended to increase depth of field.

I also found regular developers produced higher contrasts than were desired. I strived for Phenidone rich, lower Ph, developers that were to mimic "Technidol". I had the ear of a friend, at that time, and he told me that the digital capture devices (that were available at that time) were so infinitely superior to the sensitivity that one could achieve with film/chemistry that I was, essentially, pissing up a rope.

It was still fun work and I enjoyed the experiments.
 
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Maco have a long history of publishing data sheets with mixed-up information

Well that is just awesome!

I hope it is correct that the red sensitivity is extended.

More research as I said. I will get to the bottom of it either way, a little perseverance is all that is needed.

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If you search for a lookalike of the old TP comcerning red sensitivity you should be pleased by the ATP.

But there is no sheet-film version.
 
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I agree with almost every in this reply, except it would be more like "pissing into the wind"

This is exactly the use that I will be putting it to. Yes I am one of those heathens who shoots film, and then scans it and prints it digitally.

Incidentally, The Photographers Formulary sell a developer that is a direct replacement for Technidol.

I am also seriously considering converting a Epson 7800 I have to Piezography.

Cheers,
Jason.
 

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If your strongest prerequisit is high-resolution, then try both, the ATP and the CMS 20.

If your strongest prerequisit is extended red sensitivity, then try the Rollei Infrared. It is available as type 120 and as 4x5".
Without filtration it is just a superpanchromatic film.

Not available as sheet but as type 120 is the Ilford SFX 200.
It does extend lesser into the IR than the Rollei Infrared, but has a peak in the red at mean sensitivity level, more extended than the old TP and the Rollei Infrared.
 
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Pissing up a rope is, most assuredly, different than pissing into the wind. Watch out for what I said; reciprocity effects on longer exposures and lower Ph developers that have a richer Phenidone content to avoid the "punchy" contrast.

Good luck and have fun, Tim.

PS...you may enjoy this...

 
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