Kodak publication J-107: Xtol for Small Tank and Tray Processing

[chriscrawfordphoto]

Believe it or not, I just found copies of Kodak's Xtol publications J-107 (small tank / tray processing) from 1996, and J-108 (rotary tube processing) in a directory of Very Old Things on my computer. I am attaching them to this post, which will hopefully work. Tim Gray, I would be happy if you would download these and host them on your website. Thank you for maintaining it.

At first glance, J-107 doesn't seem that different from J-109 in what it covers, but I didn't look very closely yet.
Edit: at second glance, J-107 doesn't have the references to seasoned developer, or replenishment recommendations, that show up later in J-109.

The main difference is that J-107 includes developing times for 1+2 and 1+3 dilutions. These were removed from later Xtol tech publications, which only list times for full strength and 1+1 dilution.

 

[DanaK6JQ]

Thanks for the tip, Greg. I did try the Wayback Machine to pull up URLs that hosted the J-107 publication long ago (that I found in Google Groups discussions), but the docs appear to have disappeared before they were crawled. Lots of dead redirects. I’m not sure how to search the Wayback Machine directly although I did try that too without success.

I’ve searched pretty hard for this.

There is some chat about J-107 on Google Groups, for example here:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rec.photo.darkroom/2tEoTJZhYYU/discussion

One Dana Myers features frequently. For example here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.photo.darkroom/OmXKne2ELBk/UpE8c5sgReMJ

Myers has Instagram and Twitter accounts, but I don’t so can’t contact him via that medium. He seems like the kind of guy who might keep publications like that on an old hard drive.

Other familiar names in those old Xtol discussions include Paul Butzi and Dante Stella. Maybe I need to bug these strangers. I know I have a record of practically every PDF file I ever downloaded. Maybe they do too.

My ears were burning this morning! JK. I totally randomly tripped across this post.

Cheers,
Dana

 

[John Wiegerink]

It's OK folks I found it again using Google. I now have the old 2008 J-109 and the new Feb 2018 publication. Dadgummit, seems those young whippersnappers from Kodak have changed the way to get to J-109. So now we have two dates of Feb 2018 and March 2008 but can't see any other changes at first glance. Some varmit wants to confuse an old man.

I blame Mel Brooks for poking fun at me and Randolph S for indulging me in all those movies

OK it just leaves the serious stuff of the missing J-107. Any noos on this yet?

pentaxuser

There you go again, Gabby, getting your whiskers all bristled up.
I'm curious as to how close Adox's recommendations are to the older Kodak literature?

 

[reddesert]

Now deleted:

On the first page of this thread, I attached PDF copies of Kodak's J-107 and J-108 datasheets that I found on my computer (probably having survived being copied from one computer to the next for 20 years). They're still there in post #11. Tim Gray (whose username is "Tim Gray" I think) kindly put these files up for download on his site, but they also continue to be available here. This happened five years ago, and I forgot all about it until rereading the thread.

{Moderator Matt's note: thanks for the correction - I've deleted my post, and note that there appears to be more than one Tim Gray in the film world!}

 

[Dani]

I’d love to read J-109, if anybody can upload it here.

 

[reddesert]

J-109 is the current or most recent Kodak datasheet for Xtol, you can find various different revisions anywhere by searching. Such as:
2018: https://business.kodakmoments.com/sites/default/files/wysiwyg/pro/chemistry/J-109_Feb_2018.pdf
1998: https://125px.com/docs/techpubs/kodak/j109-1998_04.pdf