Kodak Gold Now Available in 120 - threads merged

Agulliver · Mar 31, 2022

Lachlan Young said:
In terms of colour etc, Gold 200 is the right kind of wrong. Compared to Portra 160 it's less accurate in colour reproduction/ saturations and considerably grittier (Portra 800 levels at least), but that fits with certain aesthetics (classic-era Juergen Teller & several (many) contemporary scandinavian photographers of similar mien - in particular when used with fill-flash) - and it also delivers a more 1980s/1990s colour neg look rather than the more-real-than-reality Portra look. All of these aesthetics are popular with younger contemporary practitioners, but so are 120 cameras - and Lomography seem to sell decent amounts of toll-coated 1990s style Kodak colour neg emulsions (VR-G derived for 100 & 400 I believe) in 120.

Portra is more or less designed to yield colours accurately in natural light, and pro's know how to use it with lighting to get the end results they desire.

Gold was designed for the everyman, and part of it's appeal is that it can make dull days look brighter. It was the film of choice for Mr and Ms Average who went on holiday a couple of times a year and took snapshots with automatic or semi-automatic cameras. As such it sold like crazy, became the film many (possibly most) people associate with 80s, 90s and 2000s photos. It's not a look I personally like, but I am very much in the minority there.

If the camera shops that I converse with are anything to go by, Gold in 120 is something young film shooters want. The Lomography 100 and 400 films are very good, I use them myself, but supply is inconsistent and supply channels aren't as thorough as Kodak-Alaris. A lot of camera shops cannot get hold of it at all. THey want to sell C41 film to amateur photographers shooting on 120, and currently there is actually nothing they can offer. Enter Gold 200 in 120.

radiant · Apr 1, 2022

Signs of this film in Europe too: https://www.macodirect.de/film/farbnegativfilm/kodak-gold-200-rollfilm-120-5er-pack

Over 10 euros per roll. No thanks.

Ernst-Jan · Apr 1, 2022

radiant said:
Signs of this film in Europe too: https://www.macodirect.de/film/farbnegativfilm/kodak-gold-200-rollfilm-120-5er-pack

Over 10 euros per roll. No thanks.

But the only other colour film in 120 under €10 is Provia. And it's the question for how long... Soon it will be the cheapest / least expensive.

pentaxuser · Apr 1, 2022

radiant said:
Signs of this film in Europe too: https://www.macodirect.de/film/farbnegativfilm/kodak-gold-200-rollfilm-120-5er-pack

Over 10 euros per roll. No thanks.

That's still over £3 cheaper than being charged by a U.K. retailer. It appears that this stuff has just begun to arrive in the U.K. Once several retailers have it in stock, competition may result in a slightly better price but this will be small in my opinion. As long as demand for it exceeds supply retailers have only one incentive and that is to charge what the market will bear

pentaxuser

brbo · Apr 1, 2022

radiant said:
Over 10 euros per roll. No thanks.

I don't like Gold 200 either, so we both will be buying Portra at 30% more.

mshchem · Apr 1, 2022

In my mailbox today.

Alan Edward Klein · Apr 1, 2022

I may have missed it. But how does Gold 200 compare to Ektar 100?

mshchem · Apr 1, 2022

Beats me. I just like to buy film. Something different.

radiant · Apr 1, 2022

12.5€ at local shop https://kameratori.fi/products/kodak-gold-200-120 - maybe I could try one roll just for fun as I can pick these up with bicycle.

Lachlan Young · Apr 2, 2022

It exists in the wild in the UK as well now.

BrianShaw · Apr 2, 2022

Alan Edward Klein said:
I may have missed it. But how does Gold 200 compare to Ektar 100?

Less expensive.

braxus · Apr 2, 2022

Alan Edward Klein said:
I may have missed it. But how does Gold 200 compare to Ektar 100?

Ektar 100 has way finer grain. The finest grain for a color neg film. Gold 200 has much coarser grain, but in 120- they said its not noticable too much. Ektar 100 also has a more neutral color tone, where as Gold 200 has a warmer yellow tone. Both have high saturation in color. Ektar goes blue in the shade, where as Gold still stays warm. Ektar is technically the better film, but Gold is the more forgiving.

halfaman · Apr 3, 2022

I am not interested in Kodak Gold for 10€ per roll (more is out of the question). With just a 15% price difference, I will keep shooting Portra 160 instead which is also my favourite negative color film.

Funny thing is that the cheapest 120 color film in Europe seems to be Provia 100F...at least before the price increase announced by Fuji.

radiant · Apr 3, 2022

halfaman said:
I am not interested in Kodak Gold for 10€ per roll (more is out of the question). With just a 15% price difference, I will keep shooting Portra 160 instead which is also my favourite negative color film.

Funny thing is that the cheapest 120 color film in Europe seems to be Provia 100F...at least before the price increase announced by Fuji.

Provia is more expensive than Ektar at fotoimpex: https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/kodak-ektar-100-kleinbildfilm-13536.html

halfaman · Apr 3, 2022

radiant said:
Provia is more expensive than Ektar at fotoimpex: https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/kodak-ektar-100-kleinbildfilm-13536.html

I was refering to 120 format. Provia is more than 2€ cheaper than Ektar.

radiant · Apr 3, 2022

halfaman said:
I was refering to 120 format. Provia is more than 2€ cheaper than Ektar.

Ah. 120 slide film roll under 10 euros, what? Time to order freezer full of this? https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/fuji-provia-f-100-rollfilm-120-einzelner-film.html

lantau · Apr 3, 2022

radiant said:
Ah. 120 slide film roll under 10 euros, what? Time to order freezer full of this? https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/fuji-provia-f-100-rollfilm-120-einzelner-film.html

It is ironic, that a shop called Digitfoto has a nice, little analog section. Occasionally I order from them, they often have good prices on some films. And the usual market price on most others.

I just ordered a pro-pack of RDP-III for €42.90. That is €10 cheaper than the pro-packs of Kodak Gold I'm seeing.

About the relatively high price of Kodak Gold in 120: Perhaps the price will come down later. Obviously there will be a high demand at the introduction. If prices were lower it might happen that scalpers will buy up most stock and sell it at the usual places with a high markup.

In the past when a film cancellation was announced (e.g. Acros), existing stock was rapidly sold out. Despite Fuji estimating many more months of supply. Then the expensive offers turned up at the bay.

Contrast that with Pro 400H. I did manage to get in an order at the old price when the announcement came. But then the price went up at all regular dealers. But in turn it is still available, now. After some time with no supply Fuji delivered more stock to dealers. At least in 120 format. Just as Fuji claimed in their notice. Instead of scalpers making the money, the extra profit stays with those companies, which keep us going And you can buy stock from proper dealers with (hopefully) professional storage.

Ernst-Jan · Apr 5, 2022

I got mail from Berlin... A 5 pack Gold is on its way. Together with Velvia and Provia, from before the price increase.

Wir bedanken uns für Ihre Bestellung bei FOTOIMPEX.
Ihr Auftrag wurde soeben durch unsere Versandmitarbeiter fertig gestellt und wird jetzt DHL übergeben.

Folgende Artikel haben wir für Sie gepackt:
Sofort lieferbar: 5 Stück KODAK Gold 200 120

braxus · Apr 5, 2022

My 5 pak is coming tomorrow here. I'll try and shoot a roll or two and do a video on it when done. We have a tulip field here openning soon, so that would make a good subject to shoot some on. I might compare it to Lomo Color 100 film, which is said to be VR-Plus 100.

Agulliver · Apr 6, 2022

I received one roll a week ago from a UK seller, which was the completion of a larger order for other film. So it's out there in the wild now. Some retailers saying they don't have sufficient to fulfil pre-orders, others saying that what they have won't last long. But it's there.

How does it compare to Ektar? Gold was designed specifically to be forgiving and to make holiday/vacation snaps always look bright, even on dull days. That's what it does. It is a little too sensitive to red for my liking and I sometimes find it makes reds look like mud....but I do like it with older 120 cameras that have lenses which weren't coated with colour film in mind because it's colour palette actually helps. I don't use it in 135 and haven't since shortly after it came out, but with vintage cameras I really like it. More grain than Ektar, but that won't be an issue in medium format. It's not much of an issue on 135 unless you make big enlargements. More forgiving, another reason to use it with older cameras but on more modern/pro gear it will look like late 80s/90s C41 film.

Price wise, everywhere that is selling it has it cheaper than any Portra film in 120. Different countries have different tax rates (remember most places outside the USA add the sales tax or equivalent to all advertised prices). No doubt shipping around the world adds some to the cost too.

It's the cheapest C41 film in 120 format, or possibly level pegging with the Lomography branded 100 and 400 films....which are earlier technology more like early 80s films.

braxus · Apr 7, 2022

I got my 1 box of 5 rolls of Gold 200 in 120 today. I plan on shooting a roll or two at the tulip fields locally here, but Im waiting for the weather to get better when on weekends. Lately all it does is overcast or rain. Its only sunny when Im at work.

mshchem · Apr 7, 2022

I've got a roll loaded, it's been gray here, nothing is blooming yet, should spring flowers and green in a couple of weeks.

braxus · Apr 9, 2022

I booked a day at the local tulip field when its claimed it may be somewhat sunny that day. But the weather here changes like that, so I hope it doesn't end up raining, like it has been for weeks here. Im planning on shooting a roll or two of Gold 200 on my Pentax 67II, plus a roll of Lomo Color 100. Planning on doing a video of it all when its done developing and scanned.

Agulliver · Apr 10, 2022

I had a chat with Andy Church of Kodak-Alaris on Friday (over an unrelated matter) and we drifted onto Gold in 120 format. He says they've released "a lot" into the market and hopes there should be sufficient supply.

braxus · Apr 10, 2022

Some places have already sold out their supply. Freestyle and B&H have to wait for the second batch now.

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