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I'd love to see Kodak stick around. However two posts in this thread really crushed whatever enthusiasm I might have had:
1) The notion that Kodak could do nice things if it freed itself from obligations to former employees
2) Someone made a comparison with "Adox".
I couldn't support Kodak products if they fkd employees over. As for Kodak learning anything from "Adox", I wouldn't go anywhere near Kodak products any longer if Kodak did anything at all the way those companies do. "Kodak" would end up being nothing more than a resurrected brand name pasted on junk in an effort to capitalize on the legacy of the brand.
Kodachrome blue sky is just for fun at this stage (something some don't seem to understand - bet they never, ever, buy even a single lottery ticket either) but I'd personally be quite happy with the continuation of current product lines. If we could ease E100G and VS into that category too then all the better.
Not even sure if it's worth it at this point, but perhaps let me to try explain my post with the discussion of the ADOX film in it.
I have almost always bought Kodak whenever they had what I wanted, ever since my Dad gave me an X-700 for my first camera. Like you, I also feel - and hopefully always will - that Kodak film/chem products are the finest quality in the world.
My post was not to say they should do everything like ADOX. Far from it. My statement was that ADOX is already manufacturing film in this manner, and if they can do it - Kodak certainly has (perhaps had) the R&D knowledge and muscle to figure out how to do this as well. Now, whether they want to - that is a different question altogether. Some of us are very excited that at least someone in the company "gets it".
Lastly, a bit of an aside, but it is truth - what film has Kodak to compare to CMS20 that I may purchase instead? It is non-existent. I have done the tests myself. TMax100 does not hold a candle, if what you want is enlargement capability from a small piece of film.
Hey, is this stuff [Read: single emulsion coat Kodachrome] legal?
What on earth is single emulsion coat Kodachrome?
Sounds about as viable as a tin of striped paint.
Steve.
Kodachrome made in ChinaWhat on earth is single emulsion coat Kodachrome?
Steve.
Hell, we're on a roll! We've already got purchase commitments for $1,500 in 8x10 Kodachrome, and requests for several other discontinued products.
No demands yet for Super-XX though. C'mon, I know you guys are out there...
Ken
My gast is still flabbering that nobody mentioned Panatomic-X yet.
My gast is still flabbering that nobody mentioned Panatomic-X yet.
Hell, we're on a roll! We've already got purchase commitments for $1,500 in 8x10 Kodachrome...
My gast is still flabbering that nobody mentioned Panatomic-X yet.
I think a 'duh' film for me to bring back would be TXP 320. Its still being made as a sheet film so the formula is current (not like the Panatomic-X which has Cadmium).
Put 1000 rolls up in 220 and I'm certain it would sell out.
Why would one consider CMS20 to be some pinnacle of excellence that no other film can approach? It's a special purpose film...I think it's a dumb and simple comparison to try and compare Tmax100 against CMS20. Different beasts, different usages.
Dang! I was just about to ...
I think a 'duh' film for me to bring back would be TXP 320. Its still being made as a sheet film so the formula is current (not like the Panatomic-X which has Cadmium).
Put 1000 rolls up in 220 and I'm certain it would sell out.
Heck, if they would just advertise Film's GOOD properties a little, I'm sure you'd see at least hundreds of thousands in the U.S. dust off their film cameras and join the new "too cool to shoot a digicam - so I shoot film" trend. .....
......But, Kodak needs to do an advertizing blitz about the SOUL of photography and blah, blah about film being awesome...and voila - you will have a run on film, guaranteed. Marketers don't call us all "sheeple" for nothing. They need to get some GOOD PR machines working for them. Believe me, they exist hardcore in this country, I don't know why Kodak is not using them.
The difference might be substantial in a 20x30 print but probably only from 35mm. If you want to print 20x30 you don't need a sharper, finer grained and painfully slow film (which will also do nothing for your lens that will be sorely tested) - you need a bigger negative.
I think that's why Tech Pan is gone - TMX in 35mm is good enough that the limiting factors become other than film - to get the most from it you must lock your mirror up (if using an SLR- could also use a rangefinder of course) and shoot off a tripod AND have a superb lens, and you still have the tonality and spectral response to deal with. And if you are going to shoot off a sturdy tripod anyway you might as well use a camera big enough for the job, especially now that they are affordable.
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