Kodak 3409 Aerecon 70mm?

polyglot · Feb 21, 2013

There are some 650' rolls of Kodak 3409 on eBay. Reading the spec sheet, it seems to me that it could possibly act as replacement for some other super-slow films that have recently been discontinued. Kodak doesn't show it as discontinued (like 2405) but I don't see it for sale elsewhere.

Has anyone here tried it? That seller has flogged three rolls already so SOMEONE out there is using it!

A secondary question: would any 70mm users be interested (in principle) in splitting a roll? Given the thinner base you can't just judge length by filling existing spools so we'd need some means of counting sprocket holes.

Athiril · Feb 22, 2013

Dont have a 70mm back, though would love to try this film.

gorbas · Feb 22, 2013

Hi Polyglot,
This is the perfect example of what I was telling you about a few days ago. Under Ideal condition 650' will yield to around 260 -120 rolls. So, it comes to around $3.85 per single 120 roll. For that money you can buy almost any BW 120 film on Market. It will be fresh and with known history. Of course YMMV

polyglot · Feb 22, 2013

Yeah, it's a bit $$. I was considering offering maybe $600ish for it as I think $2.50/roll is reasonable for expired film.

However for me in AU, I pay about $1-2/roll extra in shipping, even 50 at a time. So the cheapest fresh first-class film I can get (Acros) is about $4.50/roll at my doorstep, more often $6/roll.

gorbas · Feb 22, 2013

Hi Polyglot, got it! There are quite a few of you from Australia here, maybe is time for some kind of film ordering co-op? We have similar story here, Freestyle is still taxing Canadians with hefty handling fees.

polyglot · Feb 24, 2013

Yeah, we tend to do that frequently, at least within cities. No point doing it Australia-wide because our cities are mostly 700km+ apart and the re-postage kills any savings.

StoneNYC · Feb 25, 2013

Side note I want to visit Australia badly, any idea of the prospect of couch surfing film friends?

~Stone

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Oxleyroad · Feb 25, 2013

StoneNYC said:
Side note I want to visit Australia badly, any idea of the prospect of couch surfing film friends?

~Stone

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Possibly. I gotta spare room with a bed, but the couch is there if you prefer.

I hope to be in the US in late June, but in MI.

@polyglot. I too would be interested in trying this film.

StoneNYC · Feb 25, 2013

Oxleyroad said:
Possibly. I gotta spare room with a bed, but the couch is there if you prefer.

I hope to be in the US in late June, but in MI.

@polyglot. I too would be interested in trying this film.

Well perhaps someday, I do prefer beds to couches haha, it is an American Phrase "couch surfing" "crash at your place" are silly phrases for staying over in place of a hotel usually with people with less money

I think there's even a website couchsurfing.com or something like that but I haven't used it haha.

~Stone

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nicholai · Feb 25, 2013

While this is only remotely OT, i can vouch for couchsurfing.com, having relied on it for months.

AgX · Feb 25, 2013

Some get it all for free...

polyglot · Mar 26, 2013

I sent a $500 offer to the seller, who replies that he would accept no less than $750.

I'd be happy to buy about 1/3 of it at that price so do we have another two 70mm shooters who would like about 215' for $250? And if so, do you have empty spools to put your share on?

If not, I'm just gonna buy another 5 rolls (750') of 2405 from that Canadian guy. It's a bit crunchy but I like the glow and the price is right.

StoneNYC · Mar 27, 2013

sorry not with the release of the Ilford 70mm films... I'm all tapped out...

gorbas · Mar 29, 2013

Hi Polyglot, sorry, can you please elaborate on "bit crunchy"? Is it your comment for the 2405 film??

polyglot · Mar 29, 2013

crunchy = there's a fair bit of grain; lots of little sharp edges like a muesli bar (granola bar, for the yanks). Yes, referring to the 2405, it's about as grainy as HP5 I think (I've not wet-printed any yet though will do some this week). I am getting to rather like the stuff though.

I'd like the 3409 as a possible replacement for Efke-25: grain about as fine as Acros/TMX but with (far!) better red response and a more-traditional S-curve.

StoneNYC · Mar 29, 2013

Muesli? ... yes Granola ... I'm not even sure how to pronounce Muesli ... is it "Moo-ess-leee"? or like "meez-lee"? or something else? Never ever have I heard that word lol

polyglot · Mar 29, 2013

myoozlee. hence the translation

Truzi · Mar 29, 2013

Mucilage?

Just kidding. Some of us in the States know the term muesli. Stone, you may be familiar with Kellogg's Mueslix cereal?

mhcfires · Mar 30, 2013

Truzi said:
Mucilage?

Just kidding. Some of us in the States know the term muesli. Stone, you may be familiar with Kellogg's Mueslix cereal?

I think you got it right with mucilage.

StoneNYC · Mar 30, 2013

Truzi said:
Mucilage?

Just kidding. Some of us in the States know the term muesli. Stone, you may be familiar with Kellogg's Mueslix cereal?

Nope, never heard of that, must be a southern thing? They have a lot of different words than the new englanders, and around here "yanks" specifically means New England area of the USA, but not the south or Mideast or west, just New England (upper right corner)

~Stone

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Truzi · Mar 30, 2013

I'm in Ohio; we don't use those Southern words here, lol. Oh, and we drink pop, not soda.
My best friend and I took a vacation to New England a few years ago; wonderful region.

When Mueslix (name of the Kellogg's cereal, not the generic name) came out in the late 80s or early 90s there was quite an advertising campaign on TV.
It appears to still be around, but I've not really visited the cereal isle since I was in my early teens.

StoneNYC · Mar 30, 2013

Truzi said:
I'm in Ohio; we don't use those Southern words here, lol. Oh, and we drink pop, not soda.
My best friend and I took a vacation to New England a few years ago; wonderful region.

When Mueslix (name of the Kellogg's cereal, not the generic name) came out in the late 80s or early 90s there was quite an advertising campaign on TV.
It appears to still be around, but I've not really visited the cereal isle since I was in my early teens.

Lol "pop" is a southern word lol!

The first time some southerner used that word I tried to corrected them saying you mean suck on? Thinking they meant a Lilly pop or whatnot. Shows my ignorance at cultural language differences, but I still call it soda

~Stone

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Truzi · Mar 30, 2013

Lolly pop? We call those "suckers." LOL
In our area, Lolly Pops are those really large ones that are only for children. Suckers are smaller and for ages 7 and up.
Jawbreakers are perceived as very large 1920s versions of Gobstoppers.

I've never quite figured out the pop versus soda thing. Pop is supposedly Midwest, but a few Midwest areas call it soda (diaspora aside). Northern, Southern and West-coast regions typically call it Soda as well. We all know what we mean, and tend to tease each other when in different areas. I only tease people with the Californian accent when they say "sew-da."

Before our time, I believe it was all Soda Pop, and different areas went different ways with it. I could be wrong.

Ever try a phosphate or a _malted_ milkshake? They were more prevalent in my father's childhood, but once in a blue moon I find a place that makes them, and they are a bit different.

MattKing · Mar 30, 2013

It is "pop" in Canada.

Soda is what the heathen add to their Scotch.

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