Kodak 220 Porta Films Discontinued - The last 220 films.

aoresteen · Nov 17, 2015

I use 220 to get 16 frames 2.25" x 3.25" (6x9) with my Cambo 23SF view camera. I'd use 220 B&W but it's long gone and not too many rolls left in my freezer. I know I can use 120 but I prefer 220 for 6x9. Next month if B&H still has Portra 160 220 I'll buy more.

MFstooges · Nov 17, 2015

I like 220 Portra especially shooting in winter because I don't have to unglove my hand and reload as often as 120. My camera doesn't have interchangeable back.

mtjade2007 · Nov 25, 2015

220 is mainly to give more (double) number of shots per roll. By discontinuing 220 I think it will only result in fewer sales of the medium format films because people will tend to shoot less shots with 120. This is something the marketing people should look into. Again in my opinion if they want to sell more they should not discontinue longer package (220) of films. Think about discontinuing 36 frame 35mm films. People will just shoot fewer shots with 24 frame rolls.

If they double the 220 (make it 440) and if my camera could take it I bet I would use it exclusively. When I went hiking in the Sierra I always came back with 5 - 6 220 rolls on a day.

Sirius Glass · Nov 25, 2015

I will continue buying and shooting 120 film at the same rate.

440 will not fit in the space that 120 or 220 occupies. There are no cameras that could handle 440. If perforated 70mm film was available in the emulsions which I use, I would buy and use 70mm. But that market does not exist. The market for 220 film that I would use does not exist either.

Arctic amateur · Nov 27, 2015

Comparing 220 vs 120 to 24-shot 35mm vs 36-shot 35mm isn't a fair comparison. Any camera that takes a 24-shot roll will also take a 36-shot roll, but 220 film could only be used by select cameras. 220 was a professional's format, while most consumer medium format cameras take 120 only. So the existence or not of 220 film makes zero difference to the enthusiast with a Flexaret or a Holga.

aoresteen · Dec 11, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
I will continue buying and shooting 120 film at the same rate.

440 will not fit in the space that 120 or 220 occupies. There are no cameras that could handle 440. If perforated 70mm film was available in the emulsions which I use, I would buy and use 70mm. But that market does not exist. The market for 220 film that I would use does not exist either.

I keep missing the Ilford ULF film order date to get 70mm HP-5 . I really must get some in 2016. My Hasselblad 70mm backs really need so film to go through them.

Sirius Glass · Dec 11, 2015

aoresteen said:
I keep missing the Ilford ULF film order date to get 70mm HP-5 . I really must get some in 2016. My Hasselblad 70mm backs really need so film to go through them.

I was under the understanding that Ilford will not perforate the 70mm film with the perforation that the 70mm film will need. That is way I never bought the 70mm backs.

aoresteen · Dec 18, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
I was under the understanding that Ilford will not perforate the 70mm film with the perforation that the 70mm film will need. That is way I never bought the 70mm backs.

Humm. I thought the opposite. I think they did both in 2015:

http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2015415151928873.pdf

Page 2 items 1174810 & 1174821. One is unperf, the other is double perf.

Sirius Glass · Dec 18, 2015

I hope what you said is true. It so I would buy some 70mm backs and shoot it.

fdonadio · Dec 18, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
I hope what you said is true. It so I would buy some 70mm backs and shoot it.

There is one for sale in the classifieds right now. I've been watching the ad, but successfully keeping my GAS under control. Go ahead and end my suffering!

Sirius Glass · Dec 18, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
I hope what you said is true. It so I would buy some 70mm backs and shoot it.

fdonadio said:
There is one for sale in the classifieds right now. I've been watching the ad, but successfully keeping my GAS under control. Go ahead and end my suffering!

Not until I can be convince that the film is really available. Then I would have to find the processing reels and tanks [does Jobo processors have the reels and tanks]. If you resist the force of GAS, your head will explode.

Truzi · Dec 18, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
Not until I can be convince that the film is really available. Then I would have to find the processing reels and tanks [does Jobo processors have the reels and tanks]. If you resist the force of GAS, your head will explode.

I think Polyglot had 3-D printed a piece to adapt a patterson-style reel to 70mm, so you only need to be convinced about the film itself

aoresteen · Dec 19, 2015

70mm 15' reels are fairly easy to find. Hewes made them as did Nikor. In the 80's I made my own day-light tank from an Omega print drum. Here's the story:

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

See my post #20.

fdonadio · Dec 19, 2015

Sirius Glass said:
Not until I can be convince that the film is really available. Then I would have to find the processing reels and tanks [does Jobo processors have the reels and tanks]. If you resist the force of GAS, your head will explode.

I will give in to my GAS soon. There's so much stuff I need to buy for my darkroom!

Until then, I hope my head stays intact!

Andre Noble · Dec 25, 2015

With the Kodak TMAX 400 film backing issue of late (numbers appearing on negative) I don't feel confident buying any kodak roll film.

Although I guess this is an excuse to by and freeze the 220 over the 120.

Sirius Glass · Dec 25, 2015

Andre use Tri-X instead.

Kodak 220 Porta Films Discontinued - The last 220 films.

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