Contact Kodak Alaris at that email address, and see what they tell you. Please report back!I have 10 rolls of affected batches. Do you return them to Kodak?
They have changed the backing paper to one with much less ink.We can talk about this problem until the cows come home, but what I want to know is whether or not the problem is totally solved. Is it safe now, to buy the films listed above, with emulsion date/numbers past what is posted here? I want to start using TMY2 again, but want "NO" surprises.
Thanks Matt, I really do miss TMY2 for certain things. I was just leery of getting those blasted numbers in my sky scenes. I could use Delta 400, HP5+ or even Ultrafine Xtreme 400, but TMY2 is hard to beat for certain subjects. I've jotted down those emulsion batch numbers and will check out my local store next week.They have changed the backing paper to one with much less ink.
There are already two threads about this subject, but in the interest of making it easy to find the information about problem batches, I've brazenly decided to copy a couple of posts from those threads, to make it easy to find the information.
The threads are this one: (there was a url link here which no longer exists) ;
and this one: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
From Michael R 1974's post #195 in the latter thread:
Some more information about the affected emulsion numbers below in this excerpt from John Sexton's latest newsletter. The full newsletter can be found here http://www.johnsexton.com/newsletter05-2016.html
IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR USERS OF 120 FORMAT KODAK PROFESSIONAL FILMS- PLEASE READ
As many readers are likely aware, I have used Kodak Professional film continuously for more than four decades. Over the years I have found Kodak film to be of the highest possible quality and consistency. However, anomalies can occur from time to time. There have been recent reports that appear to be associated with certain batches of 120 format Kodak Professional film.
The problem can easily be seen in the photograph below recently made by William Wetmore. I appreciate William allowing me to share this example with readers. You will notice the word Kodak clearly appears in the sky, along with frame number '13' multiple times. I first became aware of this situation a few months ago when a former workshop participant brought some online discussions on this topic to my attention. Unfortunately, as time has passed, I have encountered a number of students, colleagues, and friends who have experienced this exact problem.
John Sexton recently released an article in which he explains that this is a manufacturing issue at Kodak with certain batch numbers;so,nothing you did wrong.
©2016 William Wetmore. All rights reserved.
I have spoken at length with Thomas J. Mooney, Film Capture Business Manager at Kodak Alaris about this phenomenon. He told me "Kodak Alaris has had a limited number of inquiries for similar problems, and that the affected film may have seen some abnormal keeping after it left the factory (e.g. sat in a truck over a hot weekend, etc.). That said, we are taking this issue very seriously and have recently made modifications to the backing paper which we believe should minimize the potential for this type of blemish going forward."
Mr. Mooney has supplied me with the emulsion numbers - which I have listed below – where this latent image print issue could potentially be seen. If you have experienced problems, or have questions or concerns, you should email Profilm@Kodakalaris.com. This email address goes directly to Mr. Mooney, who will be able to answer your questions, address your concerns, and replace any problematic film you might have on hand or have used.
If you purchase new film you should make sure that the emulsion number, printed on the box as well as the individual foil packages, is higher than the suspect emulsion numbers listed below. All photographers can imagine the disappointment and frustration any of us would feel if this happened to any of our negatives. Please pass this important news on to your photographic friends.
Emulsion numbers that may exhibit the above problem only in Kodak 120 format roll film:
(Emulsion numbers can be found on the film box, the foil wrapper, and printed on the clear edge of processed film near frame number 11.
Kodak T-Max 400
Emulsion 0148 004 through 0152
Kodak T-Max 100
Emulsion 0961 through 0981
Kodak Tri-X
Emulsion 0871 though 0931
Since the backing paper is made by a single manufacturer ALL 120 files from ALL film manufacturers are potentially effected. It seems pointless to blame Kodak for the faults of another company.
In ten years or more of using mostly Fomapan, with a little Ilford, I have never had this with either fomapan or ilford, I recently decided to try a couple of rolls of Tmax and both were ruined by this problem, never again, and if their is only one maker of backing paper left then they must make a range of paper as the paper used by both foma and rollei films is different to that used by Ilford, it is a little thicker and feels completely different to Ilford/Kodak. so is Kodak using a cheaper paper to save a few penniesSince the backing paper is made by a single manufacturer ALL 120 files from ALL film manufacturers are potentially effected. It seems pointless to blame Kodak for the faults of another company.
In ten years or more of using mostly Fomapan, with a little Ilford, I have never had this with either fomapan or ilford, I recently decided to try a couple of rolls of Tmax and both were ruined by this problem, never again, and if their is only one maker of backing paper left then they must make a range of paper as the paper used by both foma and rollei films is different to that used by Ilford, it is a little thicker and feels completely different to Ilford/Kodak. so is Kodak using a cheaper paper to save a few pennies
BURNED BY KODAK?? I've never had a bad roll of film either sheet or roll from them..so you mean they screw up a little and the sky is falling?? and how many billions of rolls of film have they sold??
have a great day!!
peter
They don't use film.
Untill I retired last October I used film for all of my professional work, I shot on Black and white and certainly if I had used Kodak and this problem had happened then I would have been a very unhappy photographer, also, as far as I can see this problem only seems to be with Kodak of the main film suppliers, I have not heard of problems with Fuji, I have never seen a problem with either Ilford or Foma, so it appears that Kodak, whose films are by far the most expensive, wt least over here,are the only problem films. I wonder if Kodak realy care about this problem, after all, they only make the stuff for Kodak Alaris, a seperate company,They don't use film.
BURNED BY KODAK?? I've never had a bad roll of film either sheet or roll from them..so you mean they screw up a little and the sky is falling?? and how many billions of rolls of film have they sold??
have a great day!!
peter
Untill I retired last October I used film for all of my professional work, I shot on Black and white and certainly if I had used Kodak and this problem had happened then I would have been a very unhappy photographer, also, as far as I can see this problem only seems to be with Kodak of the main film suppliers, I have not heard of problems with Fuji, I have never seen a problem with either Ilford or Foma, so it appears that Kodak, whose films are by far the most expensive, wt least over here,are the only problem films. I wonder if Kodak realy care about this problem, after all, they only make the stuff for Kodak Alaris, a seperate company,
+1, my suspicious film stock was replaced. Didn't need much or lengthy discussions. Very considerate arrangement for shipment, not yet received though. Accidents happen, let's bear with Kodak...., build partnerships rather than battlefield exploits ... yes, Kodak cares about it
Have you invited Mr Mooney to visit us to say hello?
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