KODACHROME

dxphoto · May 21, 2007

How is kodachrome 200 pushed to 400? Good, no good? or 64 pushed to 160.

kraker · Jun 12, 2007

Wow, this is really the opposite of "instant gratification" that some people like in d*****l. I shot my first roll of Kodachrome in more than 10 years last month. What a great surprise to find the dev'd and mounted slides in the mail.
Such stunning colours...

Instant gratification doesn't do it for me. Delayed gratification, that's a great thing! It's all in the anticipation.

(By the way: turn-around time is slightly less than 2 week, quite good, considering it first has to go to Lausanne, then to Dwayne's, back to Lausanne, and then back to me...)

Kodachrome is back in my film stock, and I will use it as long as it's there.

Thanasis · Jun 12, 2007

Anyone use the Kodachrome Professional version? What's the real difference between that and the standard Kodachrome 64?

IloveTLRs · Jun 12, 2007

I heard there's not much difference between Pro and normal - maybe grain size? Just one store clerk's opinion, though (haven't use pro myself.)

Horiuchi Color in Tokyo still processes Kodachrome (K-14) - I just a got roll back last week - turn around it about 1 week. They will stop all K-14 on December 20th this year however- from then on all Kodachrome will be sent to Dwayne's. Turn around time could be a month, I heard.

The last version of Kodachrome in Japan (ISO 64) ended in March. I bought the last 10 rolls a place downtown had. I've still got about 8 rolls left in my fridge.

Dumb question: is Kodachrome still being made/sold in the US? Can I walk into a store and buy it?

Antonov · Jun 12, 2007

This is what wikipedia tells, and I don't know how much reliable is:

"Kodachrome 200 discontinuation

Kodak officially discontinued Kodachrome 200 in November 2006. As of May 2007, there is still K-200 available from several retailers from emulsion batch 2671, with expiration dates of as late as March 2008, and from a newer coating, emulsion batch 2672, dated as late as June 2008."

Michael W · Jun 12, 2007

They haven't sold Kodachrome in Sydney for years.
I'm waiting on some rolls that I'm buying from ebay. I could get them from B&H but the shipping makes it uneconomical. B&H shipping to Australia always seems to start at $40, whereas many ebay sellers are more realistic.
Once I shoot I will send it to Dwayne's in Kansas along with some Super8.
That's the way it is these days if you want diversity of look. I just hope that postage costs don't rise too much.

There was an interesting article in the May PDN showing work by photojournalist Alex Webb shot in Turkey. He uses Kodachrome 64 in a Leica M6. What an old fogey! Joking - that's exactly what I'll be doing.

Craig · Jun 12, 2007

IloveTLRs said:
Dumb question: is Kodachrome still being made/sold in the US? Can I walk into a store and buy it?

I was in Seattle last month and Glazers has lots of it, both professional and regular

tjaded · Jun 12, 2007

I know B&H can be a pain with shipping, but I can suggest that something could be done. I work at a lab here in San Francisco and iside the lab we have another business called "Just Film." The owner is a SUPER nice guy and I know he carries Kodachrome Professional. I would be willing to help get film to you--essentially you buy from him and he and I would figure out an economical way to get it to you. It's the least I could do to help keep Kodachrome alive! If you are interested in that, give him a call at (415) 864-0665...his name is Volker, just let him know Matt from Newlab sent you. This applies to anyone here on APUG that needs help getting Kodachrome! If we get a little network of people helping each other, we will all benefit.

srs5694 · Jun 12, 2007

You could also try Freestyle, which is in California. A few months ago they added some extra overseas shipping options in an effort to make overseas shipping more affordable. I don't know what it would cost to ship film to Australia, though. FWIW, Freestyle also has excellent prices on their Arista line of B&W films and paper, which are rebadged from various other companies (Arista.EDU Ultra is Foma, Arista.EDU is Forte, etc.). If you like those particular brands, or just want to try them, adding them to the order might help reduce the per-roll shipping costs.

ajuk · Jun 12, 2007

tjaded said:
I called them and they said 35mm still photo is 1000 rolls per day. I didn't ask about movie film.

They sill make Kodachrome Movie film?

Thanasis · Jun 12, 2007

tjaded said:
I know B&H can be a pain with shipping, but I can suggest that something could be done. I work at a lab here in San Francisco and iside the lab we have another business called "Just Film." The owner is a SUPER nice guy and I know he carries Kodachrome Professional. I would be willing to help get film to you--essentially you buy from him and he and I would figure out an economical way to get it to you. It's the least I could do to help keep Kodachrome alive! If you are interested in that, give him a call at (415) 864-0665...his name is Volker, just let him know Matt from Newlab sent you. This applies to anyone here on APUG that needs help getting Kodachrome! If we get a little network of people helping each other, we will all benefit.

Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely keep this in mind as i live in Australia too. I'm waiting for payday in about 10 days and ill see how much money is left over for film after all the bills have been paid. I'm really keen to try this film again.

Russ - SVP · Jun 12, 2007

Kodachrome 200, pushes well up to 500.

Kiron Kid

Michael W · Jun 12, 2007

ajuk said:
They sill make Kodachrome Movie film?

They stopped making Kodachrome movie film mid 2005. Around the same time as they stopped making B&W paper. But there is still plenty of Kodachrome movie film stock floating around & being used up, so Dwayne's will keep processing it.

copake_ham · Jun 12, 2007

And if Kodak were still a film and chemical company it would still support K-chrome and all (m/l) its other film lines.

But, no advertising means no demand which will mean no more production.

And, sadly, no hope for manufactuer's support - even if you've just now discovered K-chrome.

IloveTLRs · Jun 18, 2007

Craig said:
I was in Seattle last month and Glazers has lots of it, both professional and regular

Cool, thanks for the info. Maybe I'll pick some up this summer in Boston

Matus Kalisky · Jun 24, 2007

I had a look on availability of Kodachrome 64 in Germany but found only the prepaid packages (~ 18 euro is a lot but the development itself is supposed to cost $9 at Dwayns). I am wondering how does it work. Do I buy the package - shoot out the film, put it into the prepaid envelope and bring it to the post? In other words - is there any aditional cost involved apart form purchase?

If anoybody out there is buying these prepaid packages in Germany - are they send directly to US or to Swiss?

I actually have never seen let alone used Kodachrome but I would love to give it a try ... and if it helps to keep it alive - even better

matus

Craig · Jun 24, 2007

slnce-z-gsi said:
I am wondering how does it work. Do I buy the package - shoot out the film, put it into the prepaid envelope and bring it to the post? In other words - is there any aditional cost involved apart form purchase?

That's correct. If the film has a P in the description on the box, i.e KR 135-36P, then processing is included in the film price. You shoot the film, put it in the envelope and mail it to the address indicated. In your case, probably Kodak Germany. Kodak will then forward it on to Dwayes for processing, and mail the processed slides back to you.

Alternatively, some photofinishers will forward it on for you if you drop off the film for processing, just like any other film. Then the slides are returned to photofinisher you dropped the film off at.

You should give it a try, Kodachrome has a unique colour palette. I prefer the colour of 64 when its slightly underexposed, so I rate it at 80. I really preferred Kodachrome 25, but that's long gone.

Craig · Jun 24, 2007

Here is the link from Kodak. You send the film to Switzerland, and Kodak takes care of it from there.
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=1147&pq-locale=en_GB&_requestid=3823

kraker · Jun 24, 2007

slnce-z-gsi said:
is there any aditional cost involved apart form purchase?

Yes: stamps to send the film to Kodak.

If anoybody out there is buying these prepaid packages in Germany - are they send directly to US or to Swiss?

Actually, Germany is a "special one"; as I recall, all European countries have to send the envelope with film to Lausanne, but for Germany (and maybe Austria??), there's an address in Germany. I guess that makes the postage cheaper for you .

Matus Kalisky · Jun 25, 2007

Thanks. But if I send the film to Switzerland myself - how and when is the payment for the developement plus shipping arranged? Is there anybody out there in EU taking this rout? How much does it cost?

thanks

kraker · Jun 25, 2007

slnce-z-gsi said:
Thanks. But if I send the film to Switzerland myself - how and when is the payment for the developement plus shipping arranged? Is there anybody out there in EU taking this rout? How much does it cost?

thanks

The film comes with an envelope. All you need to do is put your address and the Kodak address (different depending on the country where you reside) on it, put the film inside, and put enough stamps on it (for 20-50 g). Then, between 1 and 2 weeks later, you get the mounted slides back.

If you don't have an envelope... then, I don't know. Then I suppose you would have to send it to Dwayne's. But AFAIK all Kodachrome bought in the EU comes with the "process-paid" envelope. So, development and sending it back to your address is already paid for when you buy the film.

Does that answer your question?

Matus Kalisky · Jun 25, 2007

Yes. Thanks.

PKM-25 · Jun 25, 2007

WOW!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=300120362886&rd=1&rd=1
I have all I am going to use, but wow! That is the highest I have ever seen a brick of 10 KM 25 go for!

copake_ham · Jun 25, 2007

PKM-25 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=300120362886&rd=1&rd=1
I have all I am going to use, but wow! That is the highest I have ever seen a brick of 10 KM 25 go for!

It's got to make you wonder whether is a sentient brain left in Rochester that they cannot figure out how to make this stuff as a "boutique film" and charge top dollar!

Too bad, so sad.

tjaded · Jun 25, 2007

copake_ham said:
It's got to make you wonder whether is a sentient brain left in Rochester that they cannot figure out how to make this stuff as a "boutique film" and charge top dollar!

Too bad, so sad.

A small division doing boutique films is something I've wondered about often...with the CRAZY prices of Kodachrome 25, Kodak Technical Pan, Kodak Panatomic-X on e-bay, it seems like it could be done effectively except for one thing--they just don't seem to give a s*@t at Eastman Kodak. I know there is more to it than that, but it's very true that where there is a will there is a way. I mean, if companies are able to reproduce vacuum tubes and do R&D to consistently improve them, why can't it be done with film?

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