Les I'm sure is right about forte papers, but although speeds and contrast may vary between batches, they have all been beautiful (I have not used the quantities Les may have and so have not had any real gremlins...yet...fingers crossed). For a warmish paper, Agfa MCC in agfa neutol WA is superb. The blacks are tremendous, just like the ilford warmtone, but I prefer the less warm base (more neutral all round) and the surface is smoother than the ilford which has almost an ultra subtle fine lustre in the glossy (I have found this a problem with prints with large ares of black in that any dust or fluff can cling on for dear life and is not as easilty removed (Silly minor point). I have some rare Oriental VC warmtone which I have yet to use yet, yummy.