As a point of interest, aren't these specialty lenses designed to be very effective in the larger apertures? I would not expect the standard Nikon 1.8s, of any iteration, to perform as well. It is also, though from professional application, sort of an apples and oranges comparison.It can be a number of things but for me, I found the move from any Nikon lens in the 50mm range to the Zeiss Milvus 50mm F2 Makro Planar was a complete revamp of the look of the image in a focal length that is really important for me to have absolute excellence in.
The Zeiss 50 is certainly more heavy than I want at times, especially on jobs out of town in which I fly to. So every time I have tried to substitute it with say a Nikon 50mm 1.8AIS, 50mm 1.8G or even my 60mm Macro, the loss of that certain pop, the incredible sharpness and separation when shot wide open and especially the contrast and color nuance, I really regret not bringing the Zeiss.
This goes for in print in any size or client deliverables that are for web-social too, it really shows and I can even tell the diffence when in the edit suite and the images are not more than 300 pixels in size.
Like I said above, you really have to compare them more lens to lens but by and large and certainly not in a absolute terms, the Zeiss lenses just seem to have more life in them.
As a point of interest, aren't these specialty lenses designed to be very effective in the larger apertures? I would not expect the standard Nikon 1.8s, of any iteration, to perform as well. It is also, though from professional application, sort of an apples and oranges comparison.
The 50mm f/1.8 AF-Nikkor is one of the very best performers available period.
Features not covered in resolution tests:
-) bokeh
-) minumum focusing distance
-) position and grip of focus/aperture ring
-) damping
-) pitch of the helicoid
-) orientation of the helicoid
-) weight
-) readability of figures
etc.
As a point of interest, aren't these specialty lenses designed to be very effective in the larger apertures? I would not expect the standard Nikon 1.8s, of any iteration, to perform as well. It is also, though from professional application, sort of an apples and oranges comparison.
I enjoy reading KR's reviews. They are silly and full of sarcasm. Pure entertainment. He is a wise guy. He is deeply ironic. He has long ago found out that lens sharpness doesn't matter. In fact he found out that lens reviews don't matter, but he is making a living from it. I feel sorry for anyone who picks out one of his sentences dripping with sarcasm, takes it for face value and gets excited over it.
I have heard that idea before. I was thinking in terms of wide open or near to it, not certain if it makes a difference in this case.The 50mm f/1.8 AF-Nikkor is one of the very best performers available period.
Have you read his bio? What disqualifies him from being a photographer? He has published work....not sure how or what more would qualify him to be called "photographer"?
Interested to know how and why?
Can you bring quotation and link?
Thanks.
I see the thread has been skewed toward KR!Google "Ken Rockwell" and go to Zeiss ZF lenses.
Here are actual measurements.
http://www.opticallimits.com/nikon_ff
Buy used at a fair price. Test it yourself and if you find that you don't like it for some reason then sell it. You will get most of your money back and any bit you lose just consider a cheap rental fee.
One big difference between the Zeiss lenses and the Nikkors is that the Zeiss are manual focus only. If your eyes are not what they used to be then you may prefer autofocus. It doesn't matter how sharp a lens is if you miss focus it won't be sharp.
Alan has a good point here: if you need/want autofocus, there is basically no question. (The point in which he says to buy both and resell - that's instead just for wealthy people for which a Zeiss lens is just a small fraction of his/her salary; by the way I'm having a very hard time in reselling photo gear that I don't need anymore).
Sorry - who is Ken Rockwell, and should I care?
I really don't get why any time Ken Rockwell is mentioned a huge mass of hate is vomitated against him here. It's really revolting, and the spectacle of people who doesn't even know what's going on but just jump on the insult bandwagon is really disgusting.
I remember Ken Rockwell's site among the first giving any kind of advice about lenses' quality, when the internet was still at the beginning and there was not much information at all, especially about lenses. He's a nice guy and his reviews are usually amusing and informative. He has his own tastes and requirements, just like all of us, so I don't necessarily agree with every conclusion that he draws, but again I see no reason to hate him or despise him for this. We can also argue if his way of testing lenses and/or his whole website may be considered surpassed now, but again that's no good reason to hate him, and on the other hand I seriously doubt that more than 1% of the subscribers here would be really able to read an MTF chart.
While people was vomiting hate against Ken Rockwell, user Dismayed linked to a very interesting website, which of course was completely ignored by the haters. A side-by-side comparison between the Nikkor 50mm f:1.4 and Zeiss Planar 50mm F:1.4 is quite interesting and tells us that the Zeiss has slightly more distortion, but in turn is more sharp at center especially at mid apertures, but again in turn the Nikkor is more equally sharp at corners, but once again the Planar helds sharpness a bit better at closer apertures. So we end once again (surprise surprise!) with the classic adagio: you gain some, you loose some. None of the two wins hands down.
Alan has a good point here: if you need/want autofocus, there is basically no question. (The point in which he says to buy both and resell - that's instead just for wealthy people for which a Zeiss lens is just a small fraction of his/her salary; by the way I'm having a very hard time in reselling photo gear that I don't need anymore).
I would also add that Zeiss lenses usually have a high quality 9-blades nearly-circular diaphragm, while Nikkors typically have 7 or less. This makes a HUGE difference in how defocused point-linghts are rendered on the image. If you like to see heptagons all over your picture, as it was almost "cool" in the '70s and the '80s, the Nikkor will be your obvious choice. If you consider a polygon appearing on the image anywhere a defect of the image rather than a "cool effect", than you might seriously want to reconsider the Zeiss.
I do wonder why the emphasis on this site usually seems to be the equipment and which is best. Great or even good photos are not often the result of the camera and lens, but rather the result of the photographer and his or her grasp of the necessary technique. True, it's easier to quantify lens performance than the brain power that goes into great photography, Just look at the number fantastic pictures made with rather ordinary equipment. As I remember, Robert Frank's "The Americans" was made with a rather ordinary (Leica) equipment, but those pictures will live forever.
it seems he is some guy that writes reviews for gearSorry - who is Ken Rockwell, and should I care?
it seems he is some guy that writes reviews for gear
and "everyone" pays attention to what he likes and doesn't like
kind of like an photography infomercial on the internet but
different. i guess there are a lot of people all bent out of shape
i think its kind of funny ... give someone a lens they will be hungry tomorrow
give someone a new lens every week and a blog he fishes for a lifetime. or something like that..
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