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John_A · Dec 9, 2015

Instant camera (well, almost) street photography in Kabul.
Found this clip when I was looking for something else. Quite an art with surprisingly good result.

https://youtu.be/18-5xaVfhR8

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AgX · Dec 9, 2015

http://www.afghanboxcamera.com/abcp_about_bcp.htm

Photo Engineer · Dec 9, 2015

There is a long thread here on this with video of building and using these cameras.

PE

Joe VanCleave · Dec 9, 2015

Here's the link to the thread I had started.

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

~Joe

Theo Sulphate · Dec 9, 2015

A few things are not clear to me from the videos:

1) focusing is done on the glass, but is the paper put in front of the glass and the thickness of the paper ignored?

2) how is the paper transferred to the developer? It seems the partition which holds the glass/paper blocks the transfer.

3) doesn't opening the eye hole expose the paper in the developer? Also, is it light enough inside to see anything through the eye hole?

Overall, very interesting - and a tough way to earn a living. It sure puts things in perspective.

bence8810 · Dec 10, 2015

A friend of mine has one under construction in Tokyo. Quite a device I must say.

Nige · Dec 10, 2015

Theo Sulphate said:
A few things are not clear to me from the videos:
1) focusing is done on the glass, but is the paper put in front of the glass and the thickness of the paper ignored?
2) how is the paper transferred to the developer? It seems the partition which holds the glass/paper blocks the transfer.
3) doesn't opening the eye hole expose the paper in the developer? Also, is it light enough inside to see anything through the eye hole?

Overall, very interesting - and a tough way to earn a living. It sure puts things in perspective.

1) rough side of the glass is the front, so same side as the paper. I actually used 'scotch tape' for my 'ground glass'. Works pretty well surprisingly!
2) Move the 'partition' back to the rear of the camera, goes over trays or remove paper from holder and push 'partition' all the way forward to get it out of the way.
3) Red filter over eye hole, but yes it's useless without another light source. I found that out after I'd cut an eye hole. Cover the eye hole with your eye... and you see nothing! Read of a suggestion of having a red LED inside to turn on for viewers to see. Once you get the hang of it, no looking is required to process the shot.

gray1720 · Dec 10, 2015

There's a chap named Karoly Almos who does this in Amsterdam, near the Niuewmarkt and Der Waag (apologies to anyone Dutch reading this for my spelling!)

Adrian

Theo Sulphate · Dec 10, 2015

For the Afghan photographer, I'm curious what his costs were: for the camera, the materials, and how much was paid for a photo.

Joe VanCleave · Dec 10, 2015

Theo Sulphate said:
A few things are not clear to me from the videos:

1) focusing is done on the glass, but is the paper put in front of the glass and the thickness of the paper ignored?

2) how is the paper transferred to the developer? It seems the partition which holds the glass/paper blocks the transfer.

3) doesn't opening the eye hole expose the paper in the developer? Also, is it light enough inside to see anything through the eye hole?

Overall, very interesting - and a tough way to earn a living. It sure puts things in perspective.

In my design (seen in my video) the GG hinges back and the paper is placed in front. But the hange is gaffers tape, so the paper is clamped against the front frame at about the same point that the front of the GG would be located absent the paper.

The trays are below and behind the GG frame, it hinges back, the paper is removed,mthe GG closed and then the trays are free to be used with no interference.

I quit using the eye hole after marginal results, in bright light even my LED light system was inadequate to judge the exposure real time. Now I just ensure all the pricess parameters are consistent.

~Joe

macfred · Dec 11, 2015

gray1720 said:
There's a chap named Karoly Almos who does this in Amsterdam, near the Niuewmarkt and Der Waag (apologies to anyone Dutch reading this for my spelling!)

Adrian

Here we go ... [video=youtube_share;58PhRr9_gOw]http://youtu.be/58PhRr9_gOw[/video]

http://nostalgischfotograaf.nl/cms/

removed account4 · Dec 11, 2015

thanks macfred
looks like he did a reversal process.
( he didn't rephotograph the photograph like the afghan photographer does )
classic street photography !

TheToadMen · Dec 11, 2015

macfred said:
Here we go ... [video=youtube_share;58PhRr9_gOw]http://youtu.be/58PhRr9_gOw[/video]

http://nostalgischfotograaf.nl/cms/

And a simple drawing of the camere here: http://www.nostalgischfotograaf.nl/cms/werkwijze/werktekening-camera/
And some of his results: http://www.nostalgischfotograaf.nl/cms/fotos/el-minutero-zigeunercamera/

Bert from Holland
http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl

TheToadMen · Dec 11, 2015

gray1720 said:
There's a chap named Karoly Almos who does this in Amsterdam, near the Niuewmarkt and Der Waag (apologies to anyone Dutch reading this for my spelling!)

Adrian

It is "Nieuwmarkt" (= new market) and "De Waag" in Amsterdam

Bert from Holland
http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl

gray1720 · Dec 11, 2015

Thanks Bert, I feared that typing that would expose my limits in Dutch!

Adrian

TheToadMen · Dec 12, 2015

Hi Adrian,
You're welcome for a summer course Dutch - if you bring along a camera and some film.

Here is lesson 1:

Hallo Adrian,
Je bent welkom voor een zomercursus Nederlands - als je een camera en wat film mee neemt.

Bert from Holland

Theo Sulphate · Dec 12, 2015

There is something very appealing about this entire process.

gray1720 · Dec 13, 2015

That's a very kind offer, Bert. I'm in Amsterdam in May most years, and usually with at least one film camera, but it looks as though in 2016 the chap organising our cricket tour is trying to get four matches in four days, so no spare day for tourism. Much as I love cricket, that's an intense schedule!

Adrian

TheToadMen · Dec 13, 2015

gray1720 said:
That's a very kind offer, Bert. I'm in Amsterdam in May most years, and usually with at least one film camera, but it looks as though in 2016 the chap organising our cricket tour is trying to get four matches in four days, so no spare day for tourism. Much as I love cricket, that's an intense schedule!

Adrian

When in Holland (any year) just le me know and we'll burn some film.
And for now, welcome to APUG

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