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uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

Now guys here are my little pinhole! I dont use it any longer much as this was made in ages ago before, B:C:T: and that means (before Chinese pinhole time). I have a much better tools more advanced nowadays for pinhole photography. Im not going to publish any picks of those because tomorrow the whole Beijing is going to rip me off and file pinhole cameras in their celery and sell my design back to you and tell you that their creativity has no limit! Yes because they are stealing your underwear if they got a chance! So all the information you need to know is on the pictures. The shutter works as the Swiss watch! I think Leonardo would have loved this!

Ray Heath · Dec 15, 2006

what??

uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

Ray Heath said:
what??

What is what?

argus · Dec 15, 2006

uraniumnitrate said:
What is what?

Exactly, this is the pinhole forum after all?

Maybe our dear friend Ray can't read your text on the picture. Typo's, my friend

Greg_E · Dec 15, 2006

Maybe Ray was commenting on the other non camera stuff?

The wood work is very nice!

uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

Greg_E said:
Maybe Ray was commenting on the other non camera stuff?

The wood work is very nice!

Well it's up to him to answer that isn't it?

By the way thanks! I made this camera just about exacly 12 years ago!

Greg_E · Dec 15, 2006

Well there is elegance in it's simplicity, that is one of the nice things about pinhole cameras.

uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

Greg_E said:
Well there is elegance in it's simplicity, that is one of the nice things about pinhole cameras.

Yes of course but, its relative too! What is simple for one are advanced for others and vice versa! I just couldn’t think of myself doing serious pinhole work with the cardboard box! What I mean is the choice of the tool should be something you feel comfortable with and its probably will shows on your work too! Right?

uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

argus said:
Exactly, this is the pinhole forum after all?

Maybe our dear friend Ray can't read your text on the picture. Typo's, my friend

Well he might thoght of that Beijing, Hong Kong comment, But I wouldn't be supprise if the day after tomorrow somebody from there selling a pinhole with reversable back on Ebay as they copy everything!

Ray Heath · Dec 15, 2006

what are you on about?

why would anyone want to copy this? it's already been done, where did you get the design or basic principle? don't tell me you invented wooden box pinholes

as for info on the picks (sic) there isn't any technical detail - pinhole diameter, focal length, box dimensions, shutter operation, tripod mount, whatever

i've built my own cameras, from my own designs, and guess what, i had no knowledge of you or your superior design powers

uraniumnitrate · Dec 15, 2006

Ray Heath said:
what are you on about?

Here we go again! There is always got to be some one!

You wrote:

as for info on the picks (sic) there isn't any technical detail - pinhole diameter, focal length, box dimensions, shutter operation, tripod mount, whatever

If you have made a lots of cameras than surely understand that Im not talking about the wooden box!?!? Everybody can do a wooden box!

There is something else you didnt get. Did you? Read it again! I even change the text on the picture for better understanding. Lets see if you get it this time! Its about what is on the front of that wooden box Im talking about but, your imagination didnt go longer than the wooden box and other unnecessarily details like tripod mount. It says variable focal length That is that I didnt want you to know about how it works
Exactly thats why I said that all info on the picture because thats all I give away. This camera is mine and its stays that way. I dont want to see copies made!

Ray Heath · Dec 15, 2006

wow, get a grip, you're just a little too precious pal

wow, variable focal length pinhole, who'd a thunk

how come y'all can suddenly use beda english

buze · Dec 17, 2006

If you don't want to have "copies" made, well, don't show it on the internet. duh.

The Zeroimage has variable focal length and a shutter. Filter and shade you can stick on using blue tack.. That is, if you want them for something...improving image quality ? Hmm it's a pinhole camera if I wanted image quality, I'd use a proper camera

uraniumnitrate · Dec 17, 2006

buze said:
If you don't want to have "copies" made, well, don't show it on the internet. duh.

The Zeroimage has variable focal length and a shutter. Filter and shade you can stick on using blue tack.. That is, if you want them for something...improving image quality ? Hmm it's a pinhole camera if I wanted image quality, I'd use a proper camera

Just because I show the picture it doesn't mean you know how does it works! If I describe the technical function now, that would be a totally different thing! Go and fabricate a wooden box, who really cares? But to construct a pinhole camera with variable focal length need a little more than sit a front of your computer and criticize!

The whole idea come to me about 12 years ago the reason is that in some situation good to have a different focal length which we all can agree. Here I got one box with some possibilities! My new ones even are more advanced as this one. Filter is for B/W work and the shade is for what it is actually made to use it for the first place.

The quality of the image is the same soft however got more contrast using the filter and the shade yellow is standard red is for different other use!

About using that proper camera, what it would be in your case the 8x10 or 20x24?

jstraw · Dec 17, 2006

Ok...now people...stay away from the brown acid...if you've already taken some...just remember...you're ok, everyone here loves you. Drink some orange juice...put on some comforting music and just try to rest. You're going to be back in about 10 hours.

uraniumnitrate · Dec 17, 2006

jstraw said:
Ok...now people...stay away from the brown acid...if you've already taken some...just remember...you're ok, everyone here loves you. Drink some orange juice...put on some comforting music and just try to rest. You're going to be back in about 10 hours.

Can I suggest some good music? Try Motorhead and the Brand New Sign of course none of those can be considered as comfortable type but it might work out fine!

Greg_E · Dec 18, 2006

Simple box camera:

No more rubber bands or tape, and it's painted black now. Yes the back still comes off so that I can have 35mm and 6x4.5 film use. Sorry no more recent photos of the camera. Uses the same backs as my lens cameras (Mamiya 645), so it is really just an extension of that system.

uraniumnitrate · Dec 19, 2006

Greg_E said:
Simple box camera:

No more rubber bands or tape, and it's painted black now. Yes the back still comes off so that I can have 35mm and 6x4.5 film use. Sorry no more recent photos of the camera. Uses the same backs as my lens cameras (Mamiya 645), so it is really just an extension of that system.

Smart, in this case actually you can use two different kinds of film size so it doesn't matter if you run out of 35 than you just switch over to 120 or vise versa and still keep the same focal length it’s just using a smaller aria out of the actual size. Not bad at all!

I can use some other sizes and 120 film on that LF back too! But I'm actually sucker for LF and ULF.

Greg_E · Dec 19, 2006

The real reason for 135mm is that I can drop it off at any number of 1 hour places, so testing is easier. The real photos will need to be done on 120. I still need to make a viewfinder of some kind, probably with a mask for the more narrow 24x36mm film. I'm considering making a new box that will attach to an RB or RZ back, or maybe something 6x6 like the backs from the Russian cameras since they are cheap. As you can see, I'm not real fond of wide angle images, never have been. Somewhere in the 15-25 degree angle makes me most satisfied.

There was a lot I had to learn to make that box, mistakes that won't be repeated with the next one. The biggest thing was that 1/16 inch plywood is not even close to lightproof. It takes several coats of black paint on each side to make it light proof.

uraniumnitrate · Dec 19, 2006

Greg_E said:
The real reason for 135mm is that I can drop it off at any number of 1 hour places, so testing is easier. The real photos will need to be done on 120. I still need to make a viewfinder of some kind, probably with a mask for the more narrow 24x36mm film. I'm considering making a new box that will attach to an RB or RZ back, or maybe something 6x6 like the backs from the Russian cameras since they are cheap. As you can see, I'm not real fond of wide angle images, never have been. Somewhere in the 15-25 degree angle makes me most satisfied.

There was a lot I had to learn to make that box, mistakes that won't be repeated with the next one. The biggest thing was that 1/16 inch plywood is not even close to lightproof. It takes several coats of black paint on each side to make it light proof.

You know it’s good to have friend when you are on the project like this that can help you with some woodwork and so on! You can use a little black silicon in the inside and than it would be lightproof, on the outside on those fittings you may use something we have here called plastic tree (does it make any sense to you?) than you sleep and finally paint. Just a tip, I don’t know how much money you wan to sped on this but Mamiya universal have a back I don’t know exactly which one I think it’s a model K but than it’s a multiformat from 6x6, 6x4.5, 6x7 and 6x9. You might find those on Ebay. I think those I have seen ended around a $100 or so its coming with those frames you must place into the back: could make a difference.If you do so so get the back first to know how to create tha back of the camera. need some friend to help you out with some metal work too! Thats the only way to do it if you don't have any kind of worksop or a lot's of tools home.

k_jupiter · Jan 16, 2007

uraniumnitrate said:
Now guys here are my little pinhole! I dont use it any longer much as this was made in ages ago before, B:C:T: and that means (before Chinese pinhole time). I have a much better tools more advanced nowadays for pinhole photography. Im not going to publish any picks of those because tomorrow the whole Beijing is going to rip me off and file pinhole cameras in their celery and sell my design back to you and tell you that their creativity has no limit! Yes because they are stealing your underwear if they got a chance! So all the information you need to know is on the pictures. The shutter works as the Swiss watch! I think Leonardo would have loved this!

What pictures? I suspect you have been sniffing too much of that uraniumnitrate.
Personally, if I want an adjustable pinhole... wait, I have one of those... it's called a speed graphic. If I wantt a more advanced pinhole camera, I'll put a lens on it.

What the hell is this thread all about anyway?

tim in san jose

Anupam Basu · Jan 16, 2007

FWIW, I can't find these pictures of the pinhole camera everyone is on about. Am I (or my browser) missing something?

-Anupam

David Brown · Jan 16, 2007

Anupam Basu said:
FWIW, I can't find these pictures of the pinhole camera everyone is on about. Am I (or my browser) missing something?

-Anupam

It appears that Mr. Nitrate removed the pictures.

k_jupiter · Jan 16, 2007

David Brown said:
It appears that Mr. Nitrate removed the pictures.

Itz a plot to make us think we are crazy. I am sure of it.

Just because I am paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

tim in san jose

Greg_E · Jan 17, 2007

Wait, let me remove mine too, then it will be a conspiracy.

The poor guy got such a warm welcome it wouldn't surprise me if he never returns.

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