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Ronald Moravec · Jun 17, 2010

A few contqcts with Photo Flow or wetting agent will destroy the slipery surface and you can`t load, wet or dry. You can`t see, or feel it. And it is close to impossible to remove. Buy new, and apply stabalizer and wetting agents off reel.

All the nylon/plastic are the same.

Tom Taylor · Jun 17, 2010

Ronald Moravec said:
A few contqcts with Photo Flow or wetting agent will destroy the slipery surface and you can`t load, wet or dry. You can`t see, or feel it. And it is close to impossible to remove. Buy new, and apply stabalizer and wetting agents off reel.

All the nylon/plastic are the same.

What's the best way to apply the wetting agent and stablizer off reel? As soon as you remove the film from the reel it sticks to itself.

grahamp · Jun 18, 2010

On 120 handling: I like to put a slight reverse crimp in the end of my 120 film to stiffen it before loading the spiral. It was a trick taught to me years ago, and seems to work. The best reels I have are the transparent ones from my old Jobo 1000 stack tank, but they don't suit the 1500 series tanks. You can dismantle a reel and dump the film into a bowl of water with wetting agent in order to keep it off the reel. The trick is to keep the film wet, don't crowd it, and draw the film out of the solution slowly when hanging it. Otherwise you risk scratches. It used to be that home reversal processes that used light fogging required that you did this and then reloaded the spiral (underwater) to continue.

domaz · Jun 18, 2010

I actually found the reverse with what seems to be the conventional wisdom- loading 120 on 1500 reels sucks, loading 120 on 2500 is like a dream. And BTW I have loaded 4x5 onto 2509 reels soaking wet with no issues, but that is quite a bit different than rollfilm.

funkpilz · Jun 18, 2010

I'm not a huge fan of the Jobo reels (and tanksmine leaks), but they're especially bad with 120 film. I use paterson reels for 35mm now which are a dream, but I'm afraid for MF there's no alternative. Except those stainless steel things maybe.

fotch · Jun 18, 2010

Never had a problem with either the 1500 or 2500 although the larger ones do load a bit easier. I only use either Kodak or Ilford films, that may make a difference.

rshepard · Jun 18, 2010

Tom Taylor said:
What's the best way to apply the wetting agent and stablizer off reel? As soon as you remove the film from the reel it sticks to itself.

What I do is keep the photoflow in a small deli container. The size used for a pound of cole slaw or potato salad in the supermarket. When the film's finished washing I carefully pick the outside end out of the reel over the open container of photoflow, then unwind the film by the edges into the solution. The film does not stick to itself but falls into a loose coil in the container.

I'll then pick up an end, lift the film up, grab the other end, run it back and forth through the solution, then put it on the clip and hang it in my drying cabinet.

Rich

"B" · Jun 18, 2010

I've found this as my best practice for loading 120 onto my Jobo reel:

Head to whatever dark area of choice, sit down in a chair or even the floor, sandwich the reel between your knees with the input slits locked at the same degree. Grab the top corners of the 120 film with each hand, and individually feed each corner into the input slits. This gives you both hands to guide it and you should be good to go within literally a moments time. After doing this I nearly slapped myself for not figuring it out sooner. From there, it's just slow slow winding. If you start to feel it hang, reverse wind and you should be back on track.

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