jdef - personal tragedy

eddym · Sep 5, 2007

Sean said:
This site is heavily indexed by search engines so these personal details would be linked everywhere likely against someone's will. This thread is already indexed in google and yahoo. search google for "jdef" and it's the 2nd hit..

'Scuse me for asking a dumb question... but are the contents of PM's available to these search engines? If, as suggested in another post, Eric offers to give more information on this person in a PM, would said PM be "safe" from search engines?

Sean · Sep 5, 2007

The PM's are definitely private, no PM content is indexed or publicly available..

gr82bart · Sep 5, 2007

Eric Rose said:
I have been getting all kinds of PM's from people who feel empathy for Jeff but are afraid to post to this thread as they feel their post may be butchered or deleted. Some fear future retribution if any positive things are said about Jeff.

This saddens me. What has APUG come to?

Well some here fear their film will get ruined taking it through the carry-on x-ray machine too ... Indeed, what has APUG come to?

Regards, Art.

Photo Engineer · Sep 5, 2007

Art;

What about people that are afraid of chemicals?

As to the rest;

I talked to Jay on the phone last year. He was interested in my workshop but could not attend for one reason or another. He was quite interested in my super fix among other things and we had a very nice discussion.

I have found no problem with him, but the matter of his interactions in public here are none of my business and out of my hands and so I can make no reasonable comment.

I wish him the best along with his family.

PE

ann · Sep 5, 2007

his private business is none of ours. give it a break folks.

i don't really know the fellow, but it is sad when one has to give up a passion and for this reason alone i wish him well.

jbj · Sep 5, 2007

I don't know the man or care about his personal matters, other than I hope he is well. But then again I hope everyone is well and no one suffers unnecessarily.

I do know that he was vocal and not afraid to speak his mind and stood by what he said. If he rubbed people the wrong way who cares, he has integrity for at least speaking his mind instead of running with the herd.

Michael Kadillak · Sep 7, 2007

Eric Rose said:
Why do you find it so hard to express or feel any type of compassion without knowing the details?

Unfortunately, I deal best with facts dealt straight up in the real world and I certainly feel compassion regularly. Nobody needs or wants the details but a generic "I cannot practice photography so I will not be around any more" statement is rather self serving and falls far short in this instance. We are all big people here that have experienced all the positive and negative that comes with this experience called life. If he does not feel a need to reach out for whatever reason to those who he has befriended irrespective of past differences then I hope he finds someone to share his tribulations with because nobody is capable of carrying the world on their shoulders for very long.

Onward!

jdef - personal tragedy

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