JandC 200/400 was what film?

gerryyaum · Jan 27, 2010

I liked the old JandC 200/400 for my white background portraiture. Now that the company is out of business I cannot order it. I think thou it might have been repackaged from another film.

Does anyone here know what JandC 200 and 400 was? Where it came from? I am wondering if I can buy it anywhere online (freestyle or somewhere else) under its original or new name.

Thanks very much Gerry

JMC1969 · Jan 27, 2010

Not sure where you get it now, but I was told at one point it was Fotre Pan and it processes will with those times.

removed account4 · Jan 27, 2010

hey gerry

it took a bit of poking around
( the large format . info page is different now )
but this should either de-confuse you
or make you even more confused

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=11217

Cainquixote · Jan 27, 2010

it was fortepan.

and they are now out of business.

I loved that film in rodinal.

JMC1969 · Jan 27, 2010

Then link provided by jnanian mentions at one point that Bergger and Forte as being the same. Just to clarify? That is not so, correct? I understood Bergger to be a Blue sensitive film or am I misunderstanding something?

sanking · Jan 27, 2010

gerryyaum said:
I liked the old JandC 200/400 for my white background portraiture. Now that the company is out of business I cannot order it. I think thou it might have been repackaged from another film.

Does anyone here know what JandC 200 and 400 was? Where it came from? I am wondering if I can buy it anywhere online (freestyle or somewhere else) under its original or new name.

Thanks very much Gerry

JandC 200 was was Forte Pan 200. So to was Bergger BPF 200 in spite of the vehement and dishonest denials of the folks who marketed Bergger film.

Sandy

David A. Goldfarb · Jan 27, 2010

And J&C 400 was Fortepan 400.

Ian Grant · Jan 27, 2010

J&C also sold Chinese LF film under their own name, there was some confusion as they sold the EFKE & Forte films as J&C Classic, the Forte film came from Fotoimpex as Classic Art and there was some mis-packaging at the US end.

Like Sandy I found the ethics of re-branding Forte films (and papers) as Bergger and charging extortionate prices quite dishonest.

Ian

sanking · Jan 27, 2010

Ian Grant said:
J&C also sold Chinese LF film under their own name, there was some confusion as they sold the EFKE & Forte films as J&C Classic, the Forte film came from Fotoimpex as Classic Art and there was some mis-packaging at the US end.

Like Sandy I found the ethics of re-branding Forte films (and papers) as Bergger and charging extortionate prices quite dishonest.

Ian

It is interesting that you mention the Chinese LF film. John sent me some of this film for testing when he first got it and I thought it was pretty good stuff. A couple of years later I ran into John at the Formulary and asked him why he quit importing the film. He remarked that this one guy all by himself had pretty much ruined the market for the film with his bad-mouthing of it on two or three of the fora. I found it pretty interesting that one dumb a*@ could cause so much damage.

Sandy King

Lee L · Jan 27, 2010

sanking said:
It is interesting that you mention the Chinese LF film. John sent me some of this film for testing when he first got it and I thought it was pretty good stuff. A couple of years later I ran into John at the Formulary and asked him why he quit importing the film. He remarked that this one guy all by himself had pretty much ruined the market for the film with his bad-mouthing of it on two or three of the fora. I found it pretty interesting that one dumb a*@ could cause so much damage.

Sandy King

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CRhymer · Jan 28, 2010

Coincidentally, I just dug out a packet of J&C Chinese 8x10 film from the freezer. It had a cutting defect in that either the 8" or 10" side was too large - IIRC either a full 8" or 10" or both. I cut some of it down to fit shortly after I received it back in about 2006. The remaining 12 packages have been in the bottom of my freezer. It is in red paper covered foil packets - no box or label. I paid $12.99 per packet of I believe 25 sheets. I will be cutting film and loading holders tomorrow, so I will see how it has kept. As I recall, other than the off-sizing, it worked very well. I also bought a couple of packets of the same type of correctly cut film for $24.99 each, but I haven't used them yet.

Cheers,
Clarence

Ian Grant · Jan 28, 2010

sanking said:
It is interesting that you mention the Chinese LF film. John sent me some of this film for testing when he first got it and I thought it was pretty good stuff. A couple of years later I ran into John at the Formulary and asked him why he quit importing the film. He remarked that this one guy all by himself had pretty much ruined the market for the film with his bad-mouthing of it on two or three of the fora. I found it pretty interesting that one dumb a*@ could cause so much damage.

Sandy King

As Clarence says there were huge problems with the film from J&C, nothing to do with the emulsion itself rather that it had been cut imprecisely and some packets of it didn't fit a 5x4 dark-slide, there were a lot of postings at that time from a variety of people and J&C had to replace film.

Maybe one person was more vociferous than others, I don't remember now.

I still have half a pack myself, it accidentally went in the hold baggage when flying so I tossed it to one side assuming it would be fogged, I tested it last spring along with some old APX100 and it was still perfect.

Ian

Rolleijoe · Feb 1, 2010

Was it the cheaper price, or the look of the film which 1st attracted you to it? You may want to try Fomapan 200 which looks great in just about any developer, and is a reasonably priced film. Or why not try some of the Efke 25? That was a film I used regularly until discovering the Rolleipan films made by the old Agfa R/D people from Belgium.

Still wish their R³ was available. That was fantastic stuff. Testing the Rolleipan 200 as a replacement.

gerryyaum · Feb 2, 2010

Rolleijoe said:
Was it the cheaper price, or the look of the film which 1st attracted you to it? You may want to try Fomapan 200 which looks great in just about any developer, and is a reasonably priced film. Or why not try some of the Efke 25? That was a film I used regularly until discovering the Rolleipan films made by the old Agfa R/D people from Belgium.

Still wish their R³ was available. That was fantastic stuff. Testing the Rolleipan 200 as a replacement.

the cheaper price was part of it (I shot something like 600 sheets-Tri-x, HP5, JanC 400 this last July in Thai).

What I found thou with the JandC 400 was that I was getting a wonderful tonal range in my prints once I figured out a development time that worked in my Jobo with D76. I was looking for a faster film than the 25asa stuff. I use a powerful studio flash but even with that power 25asa would be to slow for my purposes. I will give the Fomapan 200 a look thou, thanks.

gerryyaum · Feb 2, 2010

Thank you everyone for your help....great people here as always.

Gerry

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