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ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

I dont care if it is off brand, its free film!

A friend of mine emailed me yesterday and said he had some film in his freezer thats been there for years and asked if I wanted it. I thought it was just a few rolls. Turns out its 72 rolls.

This is what he sent me:

"this is what I have all very old at least 8 years old film Kroger brand 400 speed 18 rolls 24 exp, Kroger brand 200 speed 31 rolls 24 exp. Fuji 100 speed 36 exp 11 rolls, kodak 200 speed exp 2 rolls one 24 exp one 36 exp. 10 rolls fuji 36 exp 1600 speed."

I also found an unused roll of Kodachrome in a camera bag last night that I didn't know I had.

TheToadMen · Sep 30, 2014

This is gonna be fun !!

darkosaric · Sep 30, 2014

Excellent. One roll of each for test and rest for fun .

bsdunek · Sep 30, 2014

Could the Kroger film be Ferrania? They did a lot of store brand film.
Kind of like my brother that has goon all Digital - due to where he lives, the Philippines. He sent me all his old, freezer stored film and paper. Includes about 50 rolls of 120 FP4(not +). Having fun with that.

ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

bsdunek said:
Could the Kroger film be Ferrania? They did a lot of store brand film.
Kind of like my brother that has goon all Digital - due to where he lives, the Philippines. He sent me all his old, freezer stored film and paper. Includes about 50 rolls of 120 FP4(not +). Having fun with that.

Haven't a clue, but I'll let you know once I get the boxes.

Jeff Kubach · Sep 30, 2014

That sounds great!

Jeff

Terry Christian · Sep 30, 2014

Congrats!
The Kroger film is likely to be Fuji. I recently processed a Kroger brand disposable camera and that's what it was.

Theo Sulphate · Sep 30, 2014

Your friend is like me: more film than food in the refrigerator.

How can the Kodachrome be processed these days?

MattKing · Sep 30, 2014

Theo Sulphate said:
How can the Kodachrome be processed these days?

As black and white film.

ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

Terry Christian said:
Congrats!
The Kroger film is likely to be Fuji. I recently processed a Kroger brand disposable camera and that's what it was.

I picked it up this afternoon. The Kroger brand was in 6 packs, and it says "Made in Italy" on it. Ferrania?

There's lots of Fujichrome, Fujicolor, and some Fuji Press 1600. Coupl'a rolls of Kodak gold, and a few others.

He's kept them in his fridge, so I just put them in mine.

All of the Kroger stuffis C-41 which I can get a kit for from Freestyle can't I?

And the rest is mostly E-6.

ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

MattKing said:
As black and white film.

Wouldn't that be a cross process?

Cause I'll shoot that and put it in some caffenol if I can....

Terry Christian · Sep 30, 2014

Yep, the Italian made stuff would be Ferrania.

I was just listening to the latest episode of the Film Photography Podcast today, and Ferrania's Dave Bias was talking about how there were only five companies who had a start-to-finish system for making color film themselves: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Svema, and Fuji.

ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

Terry Christian said:
Yep, the Italian made stuff would be Ferrania.

I was just listening to the latest episode of the Film Photography Podcast today, and Ferrania's Dave Bias was talking about how there were only five companies who had a start-to-finish system for making color film themselves: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Svema, and Fuji.

I'm watching the kickstarter for ferrania now.

Kyle M. · Sep 30, 2014

You can get both a C41 and E6 kit from freestyle. I've used there Arista E6 kit with amazing results, the C41 kit I used was from B&H also excellant results. I'm not much of a color fan but theres just something about E6, might have to give it another go.

ChristopherCoy · Sep 30, 2014

Kyle M. said:
You can get both a C41 and E6 kit from freestyle. I've used there Arista E6 kit with amazing results, the C41 kit I used was from B&H also excellant results. I'm not much of a color fan but theres just something about E6, might have to give it another go.

I've heard that color processing is rather detailed. Are these kits for beginners, or do you need special equipment?

Terry Christian · Sep 30, 2014

I haven't done E-6, but C-41 is quite simple, just a different set of considerations than B&W. Pro: You can mix films of different ISOs in the same tank. Con: You have to keep the chemicals at 100F, but I just preheat my chemical bottles in a cooler filled with hot water from the tap, and I don't have any problems. Each kit will process roughly 12-15 rolls with reuse, or last about six weeks (in Datatainer bottles; glass would be better). It's really easier than you think.

AgX · Sep 30, 2014

Terry Christian said:
Dave Bias was talking about how there were only five companies who had a start-to-finish system for making color film themselves: Kodak, Agfa, Ferrania, Svema, and Fuji.

Add Orwo and Lucky.

And likely even more manufacturers.

Terry Christian · Sep 30, 2014

Orwo had color?
To clarify, Dave Bias was referring only to companies who made their own color films from start to finish, self-contained, and did not import any components from any other manufacturers; nor issued under their own name any rebranded films from other manufacturers.

AgX · Sep 30, 2014

Terry Christian said:
Orwo had color?

Even before the New Agfa. Agfa had to get colour films from East-Germany back then.

MattKing · Sep 30, 2014

ChristopherCoy said:
Wouldn't that be a cross process?

Cause I'll shoot that and put it in some caffenol if I can....

Simplifying things greatly, it is accurate to describe Kodachrome as a three layer black and white film - the colour was added as part of the processing.

There actually is a relatively quiet APUG thread on developing Kodachrome as black and white: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

And the phrase "cross process" is probably better used to describe a process that gives intentionally false results, then a process intended to accurately recover as much as possible from your film - but that is more semantics than anything else.

TheToadMen · Oct 1, 2014

ChristopherCoy said:
I picked it up this afternoon. The Kroger brand was in 6 packs, and it says "Made in Italy" on it. Ferrania?

There's lots of Fujichrome, Fujicolor, and some Fuji Press 1600. Coupl'a rolls of Kodak gold, and a few others.

He's kept them in his fridge, so I just put them in mine.

All of the Kroger stuffis C-41 which I can get a kit for from Freestyle can't I?

And the rest is mostly E-6.

Fuji Press 1600 is nice but a bit grainy, so beware of what you're gonna use it for.

Bert from Holland
http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl

ChristopherCoy · Oct 1, 2014

Terry Christian said:
I haven't done E-6, but C-41 is quite simple, just a different set of considerations than B&W. Pro: You can mix films of different ISOs in the same tank. Con: You have to keep the chemicals at 100F, but I just preheat my chemical bottles in a cooler filled with hot water from the tap, and I don't have any problems. Each kit will process roughly 12-15 rolls with reuse, or last about six weeks (in Datatainer bottles; glass would be better). It's really easier than you think.

Nice! I may have to try it.

What about tanks. Can I use the small, 2 roll tank that I have, or do I need a special color tank?

Terry Christian · Oct 1, 2014

Chris, any tank and reels you currently have will be just fine. The only difference is the temperature and the steps in the process (prewash, dev, stop*, blix, wash, stabilizer for the C-41 kits).

*Stop is not specifically called for, but PE has argued in favor for it here on APUG and it does indeed help to squash any unevenness in development.

ChristopherCoy · Oct 1, 2014

Sweet. I'll look into a C-41 kit over the weekend.

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