I've heard APX 100 is no longer!!

Eric Rose · Aug 13, 2003

Now I'm really upset! This is/was my main film. I think I'm pretty much finished with AGFA is this is the case. They have toasted 3 different films that I used a lot and were outstanding.

I don't know where their heads are, but I bet it smells real bad!

Eric

juan · Aug 13, 2003

I once used Tri-X exclusively (4x5, 120, 35mm). Kodak changes things so frequently, I've given up. I'm trying Efke and JandC films and think I'm going to be very happy with them.
juan

Jorge Oliveira · Aug 13, 2003

Last time I really used Agfa was the silver boxed 50 ASA slides (some 30 yrs ago), very good, BTW.
Suddenly, they simply left the country for all practical purposes.
Looks like a downhill path against Kodak and Fuji.

Jorge O

Aggie · Aug 13, 2003

Black Dog · Aug 13, 2003

Maco UP25+ is a good substitute for APX 25 (Cachet on other side of the Pond). They do a nice 100 speed emulsion which comes in every size you can think of.Otherwise Fortepan which is cheap and stains very well .Haven't heard about APX 100 getting the chop but I'm going to call up Silverprint and get the 411. At least APX 400 is alive and well .

BD

clogz · Aug 13, 2003

Dear Aggie,

No need to grumble. Let's just support those that support us. And make sure the managing "suits" really hear us. A concerted effort by all those that are dedicated to analogue photography is called for at this moment in time. Only those manufacturers/stores/shops that are interested in us deserve our dollars/euros or whatever currency. Time to make a statement to the fashion conscious management loonies and the joiners of the bandwagon that we love being analogues and we are not impressed by ephemeral share prices. This is not another contribution towards the "big" analogue versus digital debate. I want my own photography - negative translated into positive. I have the inkling there's so many like me/us: photography the way WE want it. Industry ignore us at your peril.

Hans

lee · Aug 13, 2003

Aggie said:
I'm gonna figure out how to buy used equpiment and start makingmy own film.

This is a serious undertaking and the equipment costs a lot of money. I mean a lot of money. No I meant to say a lot of money.

lee\c

Jorge Oliveira · Aug 13, 2003

It's all a matter of money. Companies exist not to satisfy customer needs, but to make money (that's top lie number one).

Analog photo is under heavy competition of digital, mostly among color users.

Now, let's look at analog market:

- Mostly color, used with P&S and single use cameras.
- Some B&W 35mm.
- Less B&W MF.
- A bit of B&W LF.

Now, you are Mr. Big Brass, your yearly bonus (and those nice vacations/new SUV/etc) depends on reducing costs.

Where would you focus?

Jorge O

And, BTW, the list above is the order things will disapear in the future.

Ed Sukach · Aug 13, 2003

First I've heard of APX100 going away. I just bought a bunch of it from Calumet (face-to-face transaction) and nothing was said about it. To the Agfa website.

Silverpixels5 · Aug 13, 2003

I sure hope this isn't the case. APX 100 is my film of choice for both 35mm and MF...plus it's darn cheap. Its all I ever buy for medium...If i want to go slower I've been using EKFE 25. If they are getting the chop then I'm going to have to forego a new LF lense in order to stock up on APX100 and a bigger freezer...lol

Robert · Aug 13, 2003

Agfa doesn't have a great history of updating it's websites on time. The rumour seems to be it's been killed in 4x5 size? Considering they just released a new 400 speed version I can't see them killing the smaller formats. I wonder if this means that 9x12 will still be available?

Silverpixels5 · Aug 14, 2003

They sell boxes of 25 at my local shop for 10 bucks. I'll have to ask next time I go there, whether or not it's getting the ax.

Thilo Schmid · Aug 14, 2003

Ed Sukach said:
First I've heard of APX100 going away. I just bought a bunch of it from Calumet (face-to-face transaction) and nothing was said about it. To the Agfa website.

I have not yet seen any official confirmation of that. But there are rumors that APX Sheet Film will be dicontinued. And that wouldn't be a big surprise for me.

Thilo Schmid · Aug 14, 2003

I prefer T-Max and sometimes Delta, which are not included in the poll. Why?
Aren't they real B&W films?

Robert · Aug 14, 2003

No-))

Ole · Aug 14, 2003

EFKE PL100 and PL25 isn't included either, nor the MACO films???

Last few weeks I've been using MACO IR820c and EFKE PL100 only - I ran out of FP4+...

Thilo Schmid · Aug 14, 2003

And what does this mean? There are still plenty of Films to chose from. We shouldn't be over-pessimistic. Products come and products go. Recently introduced B&W films include Maco Cube 400, MACO AURA, Acros, ORTHO+ and the Kodak relaunches. Although the variety declines, there are still innumerable combinations of Film/Developer around. Go ahead and try something new! That keeps you from rusting

RAP · Aug 14, 2003

Hear say is always suspect. I checked that other website and found nothing and the Agfa website also says nothing.

Please substantiate.

c6h6o3 · Aug 14, 2003

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005jks

c6h6o3 · Aug 14, 2003

c6h6o3 said:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005jks

I just tried that link and it won't work. Hmm. Anyway, there's a thread in the Large Format Forum on photo.net containing an email from Agfa confirming that manufacture of APX 100 has been discontinued in 4 x 5. There's no mention of any other sizes.

Eric Rose · Aug 14, 2003

I tried to include other films but it seems the polls are limited to 7 lines.

Ole those other films you mentioned are not easily obtain here in Canada. At least in my part of the woods anyway. We just get the usual stuff from Kodak, Fuji, Ilford and Agfa.

Kodak pissed me off years ago and I have tried like the dickens to avoid using their products. Unfortunately I find HP5 lacking in contrast but will have to experiment with FP4 once again. It was just that the APX 100 was SO sharp and had such a beautiful tonal range, wimper wimper...

avandesande · Aug 14, 2003

I was able to wean myself off apx100 by moving to 8x10

Les McLean · Aug 14, 2003

TriX and Delta 3200 are my favourite 35mm films and I use FP4 and Delta 100 on all other formats. If I had to choose one only it would have to be TriX for I think it's so versatile, I've exposed it at 100 ISO through to 1600 ISO and have never been disappointed with the results.

Robert · Aug 14, 2003

If you're willing to mail order Eight Elm street in Toronto lists Forte film and Berger. Henry's carries some Maco products.

I've never worried about them since APX was so good and so cheap. I guess I'll have to try something else.

Eric Rose · Aug 18, 2003

Seems there are different stories from different parts of AGFA. Typical large corporation stuff. I think I will order a bunch just in case.

Hi Eric,

Your email has been forwarded to me for a response. We have had no
official notification from the factory about 4 x 5 APX 100 (our code B9FSE)
being discontinued. We do have inventory available in our Toronto
warehouse, so if you're concerned about a possible discontinuation then you
have the opportunity to stock up! Please contact you local dealer if you'd
like to place an order.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any additional
questions.

Regards,

Phil Nielsen

I've heard APX 100 is no longer!!

What B&W film do you use the most?

Tri-X 400

Tri-X 320

HP5+

FP4

Plus-X

APX 100

APX 400

Eric Rose

juan

Jorge Oliveira

Aggie

Black Dog

clogz

lee

Jorge Oliveira

Ed Sukach

Silverpixels5

Robert

Silverpixels5

Thilo Schmid

Thilo Schmid

Robert

Ole

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c6h6o3

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Eric Rose

avandesande

Les McLean

Robert

Eric Rose

I've heard APX 100 is no longer!!

What B&W film do you use the most?

Tri-X 400

Tri-X 320

HP5+

FP4

Plus-X

APX 100

APX 400

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