It's great that darkroom equipment is still developed and made today

Mainecoonmaniac · Oct 29, 2018

This is a Kickstart project.

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...uwGywaV8vx-Gs5jnpN5sZBpdBMXPguW-B4_hg5CZ2IjhY

trendland · Oct 29, 2018

Yes because every new stuff for darkroom is great. But I will not need this. What a bigger need on darkroom equipment is caused from companies wich do not serve thinks we remember as :
All time avaible but today still discontinued.
For example : A New 4x5/5x7 enlarger - I know there are many in good and cheap condition from second hand. But if you like to have a New one......

with regards

mshchem · Oct 29, 2018

I have plenty of stuff. It's very cool! He's right about diffusion. Looks neat. I wouldn't want acrylic, too fragile. Wish them the very best, great story.

darkroommike · Oct 29, 2018

His Dad invented the slot processor and still makes them. One of the touted features of the Nova is the textured walls of the tanks, said to reduce the chances that a print will stick inside the tank. I see that the new slot processor has smooth walls, perhaps to avoid patent infringement?

DREW WILEY · Oct 29, 2018

I don't know why anyone would want to see a 5x7 enlarger made today when it's utterly unrealistic to cost-effectively replicate the quality of vintage ones, which, even refurbished, are more likely to outlast anything new made with lesser materials. Last I heard, there were still a handful of classic unused Durst 138's still in crates in Italy; but these would likely fetch around $15,000 apiece for the chassis alone, plus substantial shipping cost. Hard to justify that kind of cost when so many good enlargers are going to landfills or scrap metal yards for lack of anyone wanting to haul them off for free.

AgX · Oct 29, 2018

Interesting, but I do not see why they need a kickstarter project. They got already the prototype. There is not much investment to be made for starting and they way that device likely will be made it will not be that much cost effective by scaling up. So why do they not just start? Or are they trying to get a marketing campaign financed?

ic-racer · Oct 29, 2018

Looks like new darkroom equipment is available in the link below. I'd probably support Nova as they have been long-time suppliers of darkroom equipment and I'd hate to see them go under. I use Nova equipment in my darkroom.
https://www.theimagingwarehouse.com/Products/Nova-Print-Processors

AgX · Oct 29, 2018

To my understanding of the entrepeneur behind that video that Nova tank production is going to end.
And their production of this new device within in a new firm is planned to be the successor. Though it is not explicetely said.

Well, that not explicitely saying maybe should make one alert, with other Kickstarter projects in mind.

EdSawyer · Oct 30, 2018

Yeah, why bother with kickstarter? Just make and sell it already.

TonyB65 · Oct 30, 2018

AgX said:
Interesting, but I do not see why they need a kickstarter project. They got already the prototype. There is not much investment to be made for starting and they way that device likely will be made it will not be that much cost effective by scaling up. So why do they not just start? Or are they trying to get a marketing campaign financed?

They have produced some new kit, the Timer for example, and the light, so they probably need the capital for the investment made on producing this. Intrepid are a small business with half a dozen employees, businesses like this need capital investment to make things happen, Kickstarter is a great way for them to raise that capital. Companies like this should be applauded for what they're doing, not criticised for using Kickstarter, which is perfectly legitimate anyway.

AgX · Oct 30, 2018

TonyB65 said:
They have produced some new kit, the Timer for example, and the light, so they probably need the capital for the investment made on producing this.

At their site they do not show any photographic product at all, aside of the prototype of this processing/washing tank. The other products are a game and a lecturne.
I guess you are mixing up firms.

ic-racer · Oct 30, 2018

AgX said:
To my understanding of the entrepeneur behind that video that Nova tank production is going to end.

I hope that is not true. They said Jobo would end, but Jobo came back with the CPP3. My Nova 20x24 archival print washer is one of the centerpieces of the print processing side of my darkroom.

otto.f · Oct 30, 2018

Sorry, 12x16” is too small for me and it is price-wise not really competitive with for instance Versalab

RalphLambrecht · Oct 30, 2018

mshchem said:
I have plenty of stuff. It's very cool! He's right about diffusion. Looks neat. I wouldn't want acrylic, too fragile. Wish them the very best, great story.

Yes, he's right about diffusion but photo chemicals being denser and sinking to the bottom is nonsense. Thats not how washing works. chemical -laden water has to be removed; gravity alone does not work. Also, this unit will most-likely cost hundreds of $. You can do the same with a few trays.

mshchem · Oct 31, 2018

RalphLambrecht said:
Yes, he's right about diffusion but photo chemicals being denser and sinking to the bottom is nonsense. Thats not how washing works. chemical -laden water has to be removed; gravity alone does not work. Also, this unit will most-likely cost hundreds of $. You can do the same with a few trays.

Totally agree. I have archival washers that I picked up used. The hypo weights more is pure bull. It's a relatively uniform solution. I have a 8x10 washer, I use a small Noritsu pump. I fill the washer, put the well rinsed, hypo clearing agent treated prints, into the washer and just circulate the water for 15 minutes. I then drain everything, refill and repeat this . 2 or 3 cycles like this, you have a well washed print.
Even with this if I only have a couple prints, I just use a tray. I have 2 big washers, I bought from guys that had never used, still had the protective paper on the dividers.
I do like the idea of this unit, they need to be sure it will take standard 8x10 and 4 way 4x5 on 8x10 hangers. Slot processing is great.

Mainecoonmaniac · Oct 31, 2018

I remember over 30 years ago during my first photo class I was taught that hypo was heavier than water. So it's diffusion. The heavier concentration of hypo in the print migrates to a lower concentration of hypo in the water. I lived with that belief for a long time now.

It's great that darkroom equipment is still developed and made today

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