Issue with AUTO on a Nikon FE

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franck

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Hello!

I recently got a Nikon FE which had not been used for many years. It is a really great camera and I like using it a lot. I much prefer its needle based meter to the LCD meter of the Nikon F3. When I got the camera, it was a bit dusty, had an old roll of film in it, a dead battery and the light seals and the mirror damper were all sticky and gooey. I cleaned the camera, removed and cleaned all the old seals and replaced them with brand new light sealing foam. I also cleaned and replaced the old mirror damper.

You can find before/after pictures of the camera and more info on what I did here: http://photo.fleurey.com/nikon-fe.html

The camera is now clean and functional. I have shot 3 rolls of film in Manual mode and in all kind of lighting conditions. It seems that it is working perfectly. The meter seems to work perfectly, I have been fully relying on it on I did not have any surprises. I really like the needle based "display".

Now for the issue: the aperture-priority mode (AUTO) does not quite work as it should so I have not used it. Let me try to explain. I noticed when testing the AUTO mode that the shutter speed did not seem to match the indication of the meter. It kind of works because it clearly selected different shutter speeds. By doing quite a lot of testing it seems that the meter reading used by the AUTO mode corresponds to the meter reading at the time of cocking the shutter (!!). Now that I have found out, it is actually perfectly reliable and repeatable but it is not a very useful feature :smile: Has anyone heard of a similar issue with an FE?

One other minor issue I have one it (which may or may not be related) is that I am surprised that there is no return spring on the multiple exposure leaver. I do not know for sure but I guess that on the FE multiple exposure leaver (which is just under the film advance leaver) there should be a spring. On mine, there is no spring so it can stay in multiple exposure position... Is that normal?

Cheers,

Franck
 

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It seems that the AE lock button is always pressed. Either stuck or electrically shorted.
 
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franck

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It seems that the AE lock button is always pressed. Either stuck or electrically shorted.

Good point, that could do something similar. I just tested for it but the AE lock button actually seem to work (in some way). If I leave the AE lock button pressed, I get the same shutter speed for any number of shots as long as I keep the button pressed (it does not reset when cocking the shutter and advancing the film). However if I do not press it, I get whatever speed the meter is reading at the time of cocking the shutter.

There is probably an electrical short somewhere. I guess that there is some mechanism to take the meter reading just before the mirror is flipped which does not work as it should but I have no idea how it is supposed to work :smile:


Cheers,

Franck
 

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Benjie is right. But check one more thing: if using an AI lens make sure that the mating tab isn't flipped up and that the ring on the body is moving with the ring on the lens. My FE meters as good as any with none of the quirky behavior yours displays.
 
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franck

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Hello!

Thanks for your replies. I have checked the lens and rings, there seem to be no problem there and when using the camera in manual, the meter is always spot on and adjusts to the selected aperture as it should.

I guess it really need to be serviced. I am a bit reluctant to send it for service because 1/ there is no guarantee that it can be fixed and 2/ here in Norway it is going to be crazy expensive (probably several times the price of buying another fully functional copy).

However, I am more than willing to have a try at servicing it myself. Has anyone some experience with removing the top plate of an FE? Is that an "easy" task? I have opened and repaired other cameras and my impression is that some are very well made for being easily serviced and others are just a mess of springs and retaining clips jumping in all directions when trying to open them :smile: In which category is the FE?

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Franck
 

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Do you really need to use the AUTO mode? I've been shooting with FE for over 13 years and have never used the auto mode (in fact, when I first read your post I was going to contradict you and say that there way no such thing on the FE). It's super easy to match the shutter speed to the needle in the display - I have never had a problem with it ever.

I'm just suggesting it so you don't have to spend a lot of money on a repair. However, I do understand that auto is something you may want.
 

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I would exercise the ae lock lever a lot first.

Taking the tops off these is not that hard. Just take pictures as you go.


Typos made on a tiny phone...
 

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The AE lock switch seems to work because when he holds it the camera exposes correctly........released, it misbehaves again.

The multi exposure lever should reset when the camera is advanced again. If I remember
right, the multi lever has an internal linkage that needs a small spring to pull it back to the normal setting. It's
directly forward of the lever.
 
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franck

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Do you really need to use the AUTO mode? I've been shooting with FE for over 13 years and have never used the auto mode (in fact, when I first read your post I was going to contradict you and say that there way no such thing on the FE). It's super easy to match the shutter speed to the needle in the display - I have never had a problem with it ever.

I'm just suggesting it so you don't have to spend a lot of money on a repair. However, I do understand that auto is something you may want.

That is a very good point. It is nice to have a fully functional camera but I will probably almost never use the AUTO mode. So far I have been using it in manual and I really like the meter needle and the shutter speed needle, it is perfect.

I will remove the top plate if it is easy enough and see if I see something obvious but I will avoid risking breaking something or put money into a repair because the camera is actually very usable as it is!

Cheers,

Franck
 

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Great answers guys.

To the OP:

- The multiple exposure lever should have spring action.
- Probably the AE lock switch is stuck in the "engaged" position, this would explain the behavior.

I sold my F3 and kept my FE. I like the FE much more; the only thing I miss was the smoother operation of the F3. Also, "FE" are my initials :smile:

I seldom use it on AUTO mode but it's a nice thing to have. That's why I like the FE much more than the FM.
 

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I love my FM, FE & FE-2.
 
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