President of the Apuggers
What the heck is POTA?
There is no such thing as APUG.
If you can regularly get 70mm film and use a medium format camera that uses “film backs”, the 70mm ones are currently very cheap. The film canisters can be loaded with a shorter length, although some film is lost in the loading process.
There is no such thing as APUG. Hasn't existed for years.
One can either ask redundant questions on PHOTRIO to find out what POTA is or just use a search engine:
You are wrong. To Sean's own statement it still exists. It only has been combined, not deleted, with the Hybrid and the Digital Forum, under one umbrella.
Apug thus is the section of analog-only users at Photrio.
One can just say nothing here at all and just "Google" stuff all day long. I'm pretty sure everyone has heard of search engines by now.
You mean me, AgX, Sirius Glass, Paul Howell, cholentpot, benjiboy, cooltouch, Les Sarile, and all the other guys are an ILLUSION?!?!
POTA is also "Parks on the Air"
Nope. They're real posters who suffer from the illusion that APUG still exists as an entity. Perhaps they believe that if they say it does often enough, it will return. Sadly (for them) it won't.
Apug still exists in DNS. That's how I found my way to photrio...
Our enthusiasm makes APUG a living, breathing reality. You're welcome to enter the APUG realm.
Well, going down the road with high contrast microfilms and POTA etc developers can be awfully disappointing in terms of capturing highlights and deep shadow values properly. People do it; but it tends to engender the proverbial "soot and chalk" look.
@momus if you think that it's possible to have a healthy film industry by paying $2.5 a roll, you are mistaken. A roll of film is a miracle of chemical engineering, yet you believe it's OK to pay half the price of a cup of coffee? That's not sustainable. Go to a local Starbucks, order a cup of espresso, a low-tech primitive product with zero R&D behind it, and make a note of how much you paid for that.
Then multiply that by 10 and that would be a fair price to pay for a roll of film. Feel blessed to enjoy 36 shots (!) for less than $100. Look around your house. Most objects surrounding your life can't hold a candle to a roll of film in terms of value they deliver. Ask yourself how much you paid for that crap at Home Depot? Even stupid shit like this is $18!! Your dumb mouse pad is probably $10.
I come from mountain biking, not the most expensive hobby in the world, yet I'm amazed by how ridiculously cheap film photography is. There's room to raise prices for everything 10x. If you're not willing to pay, you're not serious about it.
In fact, we all must experience a jolt of guilt every time we pay less than $20 per a roll of film. $20 per roll would actually a far better price. Every shot is a miracle. When it comes to film pricing, I welcome the normalcy.
Some years ago (I recall it was about 2012-2013) a Kodak Australia rep told me it cost the company about 18 US cents to manufacture a roll of color negative film and import it into this country. Sure, they have a huge infrastructure with high staff costs to cover, but if the guy was in any way accurate, the profit margins on film are (or were) super high, even if with the high inflation we are experiencing in these Covid times, the basic costs are surely now higher.
of course at that time Kodak had several coating machines running 24/7 in Rochester and elsewhere (Harrow, France, Canada even China at times) JUST to make Kodacolor. the economics of scale of course have evaporated.Some years ago (I recall it was about 2012-2013) a Kodak Australia rep told me it cost the company about 18 US cents to manufacture a roll of color negative film and import it into this country.
Flavios definitely have a great sense of humor. I thought about making a joke about it, but you did it in a way more brilliant way as I could’ve thought.You worked fighting against auto-focus photographers? Somebody give this man an award, please.
Well done.
I've seen 70mm film, and backs, and even the cassetes.
But what's rare to see are the loaders, and the film development tanks.
You are right. Reminds me of why I never got into 70mm myself.
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