Well, you certainly put me in my place. I’m at a loss for words. Is that the only kind of work that earns your seal of approval? Nomads in the Gobi desert or perhaps a recently uncovered ice sheet in Antarctica?Almost all my photos are taken while bushwhacking (wandering around off trail) in one of the lowest population density areas on the north coast of BC, Canada, or by boating to remote anchorages where few boaters bother going ashore.
there’s lots of interesting work being made and I wish you could appreciate it.
She went public with it, put on display,
No - I don't think you can equate a gallery space with the street. This isn't the public domain. In my post I mentioned our city market which wants to know who you are and why you are photographing there. It seemed odd to me at the time, but they are within their rights. My mistake was to think of the place as a public space, which in one sense it is, but not in every sense. When I go through the door of the market building, I am on their property, space for which they have responsibilities, and rights attached to them. One of their stated concerns is that they feel a duty toward their customers - whatever their motivation, some people don't like to be photographed - I don't much like it myself - and the market's main concern is that their customers be happy. Their house, their rules. When I worked in retail, we too would ask someone what they were about if they were photographing in our store.OP:
If the world followed that principle, we'd lose street photography almost in its entirety.
Isn’t there anyone out there who could muster a kind word? I guess not.
I'm not fishing for compliments but I would like to know if people thought that picture of mine to be an honest effort or just a copy of something by Richter.
I didn’t expect to get beaten up quite so viciously. Once that started I thought someone might take might offer up a kind word. But the world keeps turning.but also
It does seem maybe you expected some compliments. They are a lot easier to pick up at Flickr (and I speak as someone who keeps a lot of his photos there; but I don't have much time for the mutual back-slapping there - all those 'Award' groups, and 'Only post when you have 10000 views' groups, and 'Look at me I made Explore' groups).
I always feel like I’m instantly put on the defensive
Koraks, in particular, guns me down for posting schlock.
It would be foolish to think that Bach would be composing on a harpsichord or pianoforte if this was his era, for example.
She looked exactly the same on any street outside that gallery. My hole point was about shooting one's back with a "requirement" to ask first to which I say no way.No - I don't think you can equate a gallery space with the street. This isn't the public domain. In my post I mentioned our city market which wants to know who you are and why you are photographing there. It seemed odd to me at the time, but they are within their rights. My mistake was to think of the place as a public space, which in one sense it is, but not in every sense. When I go through the door of the market building, I am on their property, space for which they have responsibilities, and rights attached to them. One of their stated concerns is that they feel a duty toward their customers - whatever their motivation, some people don't like to be photographed - I don't much like it myself - and the market's main concern is that their customers be happy. Their house, their rules. When I worked in retail, we too would ask someone what they were about if they were photographing in our store.
If I were running a gallery, I would want to let my visitors look at the exhibits without worrying about being watched themselves.
I'm a photographer myself, but I am aware that my photography isn't the only thing that matters in this world.
However, had he composed something similar today but for different instruments, he wouldn't get a whole lot of airplay.
Ultimately, though, an artist is so closely embedded in his or her own experience, it's practically impossible to say what they'd do or who they'd be if they had been born in a different era.
She looked exactly the same on any street outside that gallery
Lot of talk of Flickr here. I don’t use it so it’s hard for me to relate.
This has hardly been the worst of those experiences but I feel like I should take my unoriginal picture, the one that’s splattered all over Flickr,
If anything, I think we should steer further in that direction for women, who suffer the male gaze too much.
You had implied that no photographer these days can stand in a place where no other artist had ever found inspiration.Well, you certainly put me in my place. I’m at a loss for words. Is that the only kind of work that earns your seal of approval? Nomads in the Gobi desert or perhaps a recently uncovered ice sheet in Antarctica?
"art"You had implied that no photographer these days can stand in a place where no other artist had ever found inspiration.Well, you certainly put me in my place. I’m at a loss for words. Is that the only kind of work that earns your seal of approval? Nomads in the Gobi desert or perhaps a recently uncovered ice sheet in Antarctica?
Sorry if you read anything confrontational in my reply...just giving an example of one photographer who lives in an area where few people live, few people visit, and almost all of those who hike stay on established trails.
There are many mountains and areas here with no modern human made trails, and when there are, I take big meandering loops into the forest to discover what can’t be seen from the trail.
'She was askin' for it, yer honour.'When you chose to put on a deep cut dress and step in it outside of own home, you are subject to be looked at even more, in fact by that choice you are screaming to be looked at, draw interest, and ... be photographed. You want privacy you make different choices.
'She was askin' for it, yer honour.'
I go to museums a lot, and I usually have a camera with me. I have a series of phots I call "At the Museum" consisting of photos of people at those museums and how they might interact with the art or juxtapositions of the visitors and the art. Although some museums are private, I treat them as public spaces and have no qualms about taking photos of the people there, including the guards and other employees. Most of the time there is art in the photos, but not always. Sometimes it is just the grounds or the buildings.
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Some examples. Feel free to dislike, dismiss, criticize or otherwise vent. That seems to be the theme of this thread now.
Unfortunately, that is where I though Hassasin's logic was heading, also.
For me, questions about objectifying women, cultural approbiation, photographing the art of others, and so on, is a matter of respect. In most cases in the USA, citizens have a right to be disrespectful. This also means when people are disrespectful, no one else is required to respect their disrespectfulness. One may reconize their right, but still think they are a shitty person for exercising that right.
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