Ron, my problem is that when the world is indeed a sunny day, the shadows are blue!
Unless you arrive in the U.K. at our very sunny and bright period of the year and who knows when that will be....
Daniel, these are impressive - but you have certainly chosen your subjects carefully, It seems to lend itself to bright subjects where there is little difference in light over the subject. My pictures were of landscapes and country barns where there were distant hills, and the hills in particular were awful; another poster explained how atmospheric refraction may make the distant light more blue, and Ektar is just being "accurate" -- not much use to me, however, if it is accurate without a brain to interpret colors.
I did see that on your proof sheet, a few of the images did seem to have a blue cast. Especially the fourth picture on the top row.
These posts have been very useful, and I have picked up some useful information. It would seem first, to treat the film as a 50 ASA film; and second, pick bright subjects with even illumination. And I still think that processing tolerance is an issue; maybe Ektar is more finicky than other emulsions I have developed successfully. I also look forward to seeing if paper choice makes a difference.
I will pack a few rolls of Ektar for my trip, along with everything else, and an extra camera body so I can shoot it alongside Portra or whatever else I take with me.
Ektar100 isn't great with skin tones and does give a very distinct look, the following are basically all the same setting but with the movement of the models I thought you would like to see some of the shadow areas.
Straight Noritsu scans, from the best lab in the world, Richard Photo Lab:
my recommendation: buy 10 rolls of film before your trip, 5 rolls of Portra 160 or 400(this is a great film IMO), and 5 rolls of Ektar. Shoot the same scenes with both, and bracket each film in 1/3ASA increments downward from its box "speed". I have come to realized that for ME, ASA 50 works best for Ektar 100 processed "normally", and provides more shadow density, but the highlights still have a sparkle to them when printed down density-wise. But definitely do some testing pre-trip so you have a gauge to work off of.
OK Polyglot, I bow down to you, you are the King of Ektar! The images are amazing! I don't think I will be able to learn enough by tomorrow to make a success of it for my impending trip, but your images are inspiring, and I look forward to working more with Ektar when I come back. I did have more luck scanning it than with optical printing, But I had never thought to treat it as a slide film before. I think that may be the key to making it work.
Agfa made a 25ISO colour neg film about 20 years ago. The grain was almost non existent, but the contrast and colour saturation was off the clock. It had zero latitude in both the exposure and development stages. It was sharp as hell but totally unmanageable. I think I used it twice then never again. Almost a forerunner of Ektar in all respects.
Like you I am resorting to Portra after this but if it doesn't come up to scratch it is back to Fuji again
Ektar has distinctly less saturation than any chrome film, but more than Portra. It is very well-balanced
spectrum-wise, and is not just "enhanced" in certain hue categories. If you have blue shadows in the
scene, that's how they will look in the shot (didn't Manet, Monet, etc figure that out awhile back?).
In other words, the shadows are not artificially warmed for the sake of skintones. And it's not a film they're going to put into disposable carboard cameras for Aun't Maude's fourth wedding in Peoria. It's
a film for adults who legally own light meters too.
Hah I love how you say "it's for adults" haha is that your way of saying "it's not for hipster kids" ?? Lol
~Stone
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Im betting the lomo/instagram crowd loves when it comes out wonky from poor color balance.
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