I know. Hence the “hobo”.A reflective pressure plate we disccussed here in the past.
The important point with this idea is that in effect a concave mirror of apt focal length is applied.
That’s actually a great idea.Maybe we should start a forum "Failed Patents".
Thanks for the comment Sam!I may have already discussed this, somewhere here a long time ago but after reading an article about Stanley Kubrick's cinematographer, John Alcott, and his shooting of Barry Lyndon, I did this very same thing. According to the article, apart from designing and building a new type of lens to shoot the film under candle light, they removed the anti-halation layer from the film prior to shooting. They then used the reflective pressure plate to achieve halo effects from the candle lit scenes. I did something similar after reading this article and had a pressure plate from a no-longer-used Fujica ST901 silver plated and shot a whole series landscapes and night street shots this way on 35mm B & W stock. I must say in hindsight it did in fact work a treat, but it did not really give me an effective increase in film speed, only an interesting "look." It reminded me of primitive old time lenses and early photographic look from the pastoralists. I must admit that while it was an interesting thing to do I much preferred the sharp "straight" look of a modern lens for my night street photography. FWIW Cheers!
The Mylar was 3M RR material.Stanley Kubrick was a once in a lifetime genius. He did what others only dreamed about.
On 20001: A Space Odyssey, he wanted the best background photos he could get for the sunset shots, so he dispatched several teams to countries and filmed things at sunset and sunrise w/ 8x10 cameras and slide film. After a few months they returned, and he had to build his own projector to use the huge slides, and also had to design and build a cooling system because the high heat from the lamps were melting the slides.
That worked OK, but then he was having trouble getting enough light to photograph both the actors in front of the projected image, and the projected images too. So he went to N.A.S.A and found some, literally, space age Mylar type of film that had amazing reflective properties. Unfortunately, the camera was picking up the seams where they had to join the reflective material, so he had the crew tear all the Mylar into tiny pieces, then glue them back together in random patterns. After that, the camera didn't "see" the seams.
What he didn't know about light and photography, didn't exist.
Thanks for the comment Sam!
Never knew that fact about the cinematography of BL. Very interesting.
Would you happen to remember in what publication you read the article, and what number/date? American Cinematographer?
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G'day Helge,
It certainly was American Cinematographer but as I remember, those stories about "....how I shot [insert film name]..." usually came out within a few months of the theatrical release date, so to find the article it may very well be an easy net search for the date and then head to an archive or library. Being retired now from the film industry I also "retired" all my AC magazines to a local library. Best of luck & cheers! Sam
Not a failed idea at all.
The reflective backside is how Polaroid achieved 1000 speed film. Since you were making a positive, the back didn’t matter. Since you weren’t enlarging, the problem of grain and sharpness weren’t a deal breaker.
Not a failed idea at all.
The reflective backside is how Polaroid achieved 1000 speed film. Since you were making a positive, the back didn’t matter. Since you weren’t enlarging, the problem of grain and sharpness weren’t a deal breaker.
No, but the film was exposed from the back with a folded optical line, involving a mirror.Never a concave mirror was employed for backlighting a film.
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