Inked finally arrived....

Dave Wooten · Jul 22, 2005

I like the magazine....volume 2......
It is not in the Barnes and Noble stores in Vegas....Dave thought it was...it is in their computers to be on the shelf.....clerk was checking on the problem....

Subscription issue arrived today US mail......maybe some reviews to follow later from other readers as well as myself.....it is a surprisingly good volume...Dave admits vol one was a disaster

....I hope Dave "makes a go of it"!

Congratulations Dave

mikebarger · Jul 22, 2005

Can't really say why, but I put volume two back on the rack.

Mike

c6h6o3 · Jul 22, 2005

Where did you see it on the rack? I've never seen this thing.

david b · Jul 23, 2005

I just bought issue 2 at Borders. It is quite nice.

Dave Wooten · Jul 23, 2005

It is refreshing to see introduction of photographers whose work I am not familiar with.....I have always been a fan of Jerry Uelsmann but you gotta see this....

Check out www.thomasbarbey.com RB 67 and Canon AE-1 cameras

Robert Hall · Jul 23, 2005

I must say, while I didn't see the first issue, this issue really looks nice. I need to spend more time with it, but a quick look, looks great.

Keep up the good work!

ann · Jul 23, 2005

Dave
thanks for posting the Barbey site, however, i found the design hard to follow; which of course is not your fault lol.

Daniel Lawton · Jul 23, 2005

I thought issue 2 was nicely done and I actually bought it instead of leafing through the pages and returning it to the shelf like most other photo mags. It would be nice if INKED focused 100% on traditional work but I suppose thats pretty much out of the question in today's world. Even so I found that it predominantly dealt with non digital work. In any case its certainly refreshing to see a photography magazine that departs from the Pop Photo, Petersons-publication-type rags that fill up the bookshelves.

doughowk · Jul 23, 2005

I bought issue #2 at B&N, and liked it. The images were well displayed and overall appearance was very good; however I prefer B&W Magazine for amount of information. If Inked does survive & expand, should become a good resource.

roteague · Jul 23, 2005

Dave Wooten said:
Check out www.thomasbarbey.com RB 67 and Canon AE-1 cameras

Rude website ... the first thing it did was resize my IE, so I closed it without going in.

Andy K · Jul 23, 2005

Dave Wooten said:
Check out www.thomasbarbey.com RB 67 and Canon AE-1 cameras

Flash based website wanted me to turn off pop up blocking and mess with my IE settings, so I didn't bother.

thedarkroomstudios · Jul 23, 2005

roteague said:
Rude website ... the first thing it did was resize my IE, so I closed it without going in.

I agree. "Sorry Thomas, but I don't know you well enough to let down my pop-up guard and meet your stringent browsing guidelines" is about what I thought before closing it.
-Brad

Dave Parker · Jul 23, 2005

Perfect example of what not to do, when designing a website, I don't have flash on my computer and won't install it, so I can not even look at the site, if your going to use flash, always always, give your visitor an alternative, I use Firefox now, and will not disable my pop up blocker. he may have a great site, with good vision, but unfortunately, I will never see it.

Dave

DavidS · Jul 23, 2005

Satinsnow said:
Perfect example of what not to do, when designing a website, I don't have flash on my computer and won't install it, so I can not even look at the site, if your going to use flash, always always, give your visitor an alternative, I use Firefox now, and will not disable my pop up blocker. he may have a great site, with good vision, but unfortunately, I will never see it.

Dave

Now, I'm curious, because I have a few pop-ups on my website, even in the HTML portion of it. It's only to display a new page on the website for subscribing or for the gallery. Why would you not take down your pop-up blocker to view someone's photography?

doughowk · Jul 23, 2005

I may be a traditionalist when it comes to photography, but I do think Flash is one of the best web design tools to come along in quite a while. Also Barbey's images are beautiful; and his technique of analog photo montage is encouraging when everybody else is touting PS as the only way for creative photo manipulation.

Bob Carnie · Jul 23, 2005

Ok David Wooten
I am going to bite.
Are you trying to tell us that this work is traditional photocomp in the tradition of Gerry Uelesman sp.
If so he is very , very , very good . I did hand comp for 7 years and burned out my close vision doing it. And if this is rubylith and micro modified work done by hand I will eat my shorts.

Dave Wooten · Jul 23, 2005

I am fairly illiterate when it comes to computers and digital, however I recommended this site and had no trouble opening it etc and no pop ups I have a Mac computer.

The skill with which Thomas uses his RB 67 and 35 mm sl reflex is encouraging....the resulting montages are beautiful....

.........an analog artist I was not aware of....will get into the articles and substance of the mag later this weekend....my ViewCamera mag arrived today and just got my B & W August issue....both good issues I am in fat city this weekend.

Cheers all

Dave in Vegas

Bob F. · Jul 23, 2005

For the Flashaphobics, like myself... some of Thomas Barbey's images here: Dead Link Removed

Cheers, Bob.

Dave Wooten · Jul 23, 2005

I don't know Bob C.,

When I looked at the article and the images shown, I really liked them, that is personal.On the technical side, I was impressed that apparently it is film, analog. The only real info is in the first paragraph

"Using a Mamiya, RB 67 and several old Canon AE-1 cameras, Thomas Barbey (pronounced Bar-bay) creates the raw materials to manfacture his own artistic universe. Working in photomontage, images are crafted using whatever tools are necessary, from multiple enlargers to scissors to airbrush. Once completed the originals are re-photographed and released in limited editions, unlimited editions, posters, books, and even puzzles."

How an artist "gets there" technically, is, at the end of the day of lesser importance or of no importance to the emotion of an image than the image itself.

Was aand is the realization of the creative idea of the artist successful?

The fact that so much of the process is analog is quite interesting to me, however when I saw Thomas Barbey's images, my first and immediate reaction was Wow! I like it......

Jeremy · Jul 23, 2005

I just checked out the site and there is some fantastic work there! It does not appear to me that they are 100% analog, though, as the final prints are available on Kodak or Fuji color paper--methinks they are digitized somewhere along the way. At $200 for an 11x14 matted and framed I was tempted to buy one before i found out they were on Fuji Crystal Archive and get this: he doesn't sign them! I don't know why, but the open edition prints aren't signed while the Sepia toned "Limited Edition prints" on Kodak Metallic paper (a color paper) are signed--for 2X the price. Why are the limited edition prints signed, but not the open edition? I know the open edition isn't going to be numbered, but why doesn't he sign them? I'm really curious about this so I think I'll send him an email to find out why.

Dave Wooten · Jul 23, 2005

I would guess fugi paper is one of the most used papers here in Vegas in all Publishing houses, commercial projects i have done here are nearly always outputted on that after the work,,,art work or film has been scanned....seems a reasonable solution since his is a commercial venture, posters, cards etc.....

I was and am impressed with the images, I will own one, dont know which one, ("Sowing the seeds of Love" reminds me of the poet Vachel Lindsey (ever heard of him) he would create drawings and etchings to go with his poems and then recite them on street corners handing out the art work....In the early 1900 etc...)

and found it so interesting that Barbey uses film for the construction of the montage.

DavidS · Jul 23, 2005

Dave Wooten said:
I would guess fugi paper is one of the most used papers here in Vegas in all Publishing houses, commercial projects i have done here are nearly always outputted on that after the work,,,art work or film has been scanned....seems a reasonable solution since his is a commercial venture, posters, cards etc.....

I was and am impressed with the images, I will own one, dont know which one, ("Sowing the seeds of Love" reminds me of the poet Vachel Lindsey (ever heard of him) he would create drawings and etchings to go with his poems and then recite them on street corners handing out the art work....In the early 1900 etc...)

and found it so interesting that Barbey uses film for the construction of the montage.

I personally have found many people to enjoy "Tourist Trap" the most. Thomas is a great guy, I've been working with him since the days of pixiport.com.

roteague · Jul 23, 2005

Dave Wooten said:
I am fairly illiterate when it comes to computers and digital, however I recommended this site and had no trouble opening it etc and no pop ups I have a Mac computer.

No problem Dave, it isn't your fault. It is just that some people, including me, don't like websites that change browser size, location, pops up windows, etc. My browser size just the way I like it, and I don't appreciate a site that changes that. I have no problem with Flash, but plenty of other people do. Some web designers seems so enamoured by technology they fail to realize that these things are considered as irritants by others.

Dave Wooten · Jul 23, 2005

gottcha and I couldnt agree with you more Robert, I am struggling to get my first web site up and am trying to keep it so simple.....It is so irritating when the tech toys get in the way....by the way, the same goes for those irritating screaming graphics sometimes presented on Monday nite football.

roteague · Jul 24, 2005

DavidS said:
Now, I'm curious, because I have a few pop-ups on my website, even in the HTML portion of it. It's only to display a new page on the website for subscribing or for the gallery. Why would you not take down your pop-up blocker to view someone's photography?

Because, the browser is on my desktop, and it is my decision as to the size and position of the browser window and how it functions. Popup blockers don't block explicit popups (those I choose to open by clicking on link), it stops the website from opening one without my permission (like those that automatically open when the page displays). Again, because the browser belongs to me, not to the website owner.

A good webmaster/designer takes this into account and designs accordingly.

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