In search of a SUNPAK flash list

I'm in search of a half-way decent list of SUNPAK flashes. I know there are a couple on-line -- all a waste of time. The best have maybe a third of all of SUNPAK's flashes. I'm looking for something that's actually useful. You know something that actually included SUNPAK's flash for the Kodak 110 Pocket Instamatics, for example -- or even a list that includes Guide Numbers or the power supply(s).

There are some half-way decent lists of Vivitar flashes -- and a GREAT list of Minolta/Sony flashes -- but I can't find anything of any worth on the countless SUNPAK flashes.

Has anyone run across such a beast -- or am I simply trying to find the YETI?

No need to respond if your response is basically "You're SOL", "Why do you want such a list?", "Buy a Vivitar", or "I use a SUNPAK ABC123, and love it", etc.

Is Mike Butkus' collection of manuals of any help?

Just put together this list, using web photos of models

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16
20
24
25
28
30
32
36
40
42
52
58
101
120
122
124
144
200
220
226
260
266
320
322
333
340
344
355
383
411
422
433
433
444
455
511
522
544
555
600
622
933
2000
3000
3075
3600
4000
4011
4205
5000
120J
DF3600
DF4000
DF92
MX130
MZ440
PF20
PZ42
PZ5000
TT560

Guide numbers are up to you. This list includes no macro lighting models.

MattKing said:

Is Mike Butkus' collection of manuals of any help?

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Exactly my immediate thought! Mike Butkus has lots of Sunpak manuals.

wiltw said:

Just put together this list, using web photos of models

Guide numbers are up to you. This list includes no macro lighting models.

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I have no idea how you did that, but it is very impressive and much better than anything I have found. Obviously the people who put together the other lists on the web did not know how to do what you did.

The model numbers of many, many flashes is often a clue to their GN. for example, a Fujika EX14 can be a 14 Guide Number. A Yashika LX-44 might be a 44 GN, etc.

The ones I have and the ones I'm interested in are not on the list (ex., Auto 121, Auto 121C, Auto 121S) but this is a GREAT help to me -- and probably others.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

xkaes said:

I have no idea how you did that, but it is very impressive and much better than anything I have found.

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Simple...search on Google for " 'Sunpak flash' photo", and copy the model numbers from the annotations into a spreadsheet, then sort the entries. Not much time needed.

The Sunpak 622 or 522 certainly does not have that as a Guide Number, nor is the model number even remotely related to GN...the Sunpak 522 is GN120(ft) or 36(m), and the 622 is GN160; but your conclusion is often valid.

I assume that's a GOOGLE CHROME feature?

In any event, it will come in handy for similar situations.

This is a follow-up.

Although the great list of SUNPAK flashes (above) was not helpful to me -- because I was looking for tiny flashes -- I've solved my problem.

The SUNPAK Auto 121C and Auto 121S are the smallest flashes that I've found that have both manual and automatic exposure modes -- and a hot shoe. There are lots of smaller flashes, of course, but they don't meet my requirements because they either lack automatic exposure control, lack manual exposure control, are dedicated to a particular camera, lack a PC connection, or other limitation.

It took me a while to get a Auto 121C and a Auto 121S -- in working condition at a good price -- but I now have both. The photos that I've seen of both make them look to be the same, but I figured there would be some difference.

((FYI, there is also a plain 121 model, but it's larger than the Auto 121C and Auto 121S. There are also NON-auto 121C and 121S models-- which are the same, but with only manual exposure mode,and lack the "AUTO" in their names.)

It turns out that the Auto 121S and Auto 121C are exactly the same in terms of body shape & size -- and features & operation. There is one small difference that might explain the two different names. The bottom of the plastic flash shoe is stamped with a serial #. On the Auto 121C there is only the serial #. Mine starts with "20XXXXX". On the Auto 121S, in addition to the serial # (mine starts with "40XXXXX"), it is stamped "HONG KONG". So the "S" and "C" might just mean different factories.

Here they are on a Minolta MG-s and 16II -- a perfect match for a small camera. Guide # of 46 (ISO 100 in feet), using two AA batteries. Weighs 3.2 oz. 2.6 x 2.4 x 1.6".