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In a world without Tri-X...

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Okay...two rolls of the D3200 scanned and will develop the tri-x tonight. I must say, I am delighted with the D3200 -- shot at 1600, 9:24 in DD-X (my darkroom and chemicals are 18C).



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D3200 is really nice. In medium format it's just wonderful for portraits. Nice work!
 
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Thomas Bertilsson said:
D3200 is really nice. In medium format it's just wonderful for portraits. Nice work!
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Thank you! This was a bunch of big "firsts" for me. First time ever using lights, first time using my DIY pop-up studio, first time shooting D3200 at 1600 (second roll of it ever with this camera). So, overall I'm pretty happy.


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Xmas said:
well Kodak still make Double-X in 5222 quite similar to FP4 and they still make a mono C41 film like XP2 -
BW400CN, or they did up to a few weeks ago.
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And if you act fast you might get Eastman Double-X in 4x5 sheets too! (Special run, PM me if you don't know).

RattyMouse said:
Personally I have always favored Fujifilim's 120 rolls due to the adhesive that they used. I cant figure out why Kodak and Ilford have not copied that.
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I agree! Both the sticky sealing tab AND the little catch hook in the spool that catches the hole on the paper leader, both are really amazing and I really wish ilford would adopt both somehow, then I wouldn't bother with kodak at all, it's THAT GOOD.

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The label you lick to close off the end of 120 rolls.
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Must be a euro thing, I've never seen that, I also don't see the point as I process all my film myself.
 

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Xmas said:
well Kodak still make Double-X in 5222 quite similar to FP4 and they still make a mono C41 film like XP2 -
BW400CN, or they did up to a few weeks ago.
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Ah yes, I forgot BW400CN. But it's optimized for printing on RA4 machines so it has an orange dye mask, and it's only available in 35mm. Bring it out in 120 and make Double-X routinely available in 120 and I'll pay attention.
 

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Um, one of the things I don't like about Acros is that I can never get the darned sticky thing on right. I have to carry some tape. Maybe I'm missing something? I never have a problem with Kodak or Ilford. I have with Foma, though.
 

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StoneNYC said:
Must be a euro thing, I've never seen that, I also don't see the point as I process all my film myself.
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???

if you aren't shooting neopan, how do you seal the roll shut after you expose it, before YOU process it ?
 
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Roger Cole said:
Small world. I'm originally from Elizabethton, TN and worked from 2001-2003 for a company contracting with Eastman (which I never called "the" Eastman, as that seems to be a Kingsport-only name.)

Anyway, hi from another TN transplant.
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Ha ha! And hello! Elizabethton is lovely. I've bounced back and forth between the Midwest and TN most of my life. Quite confusing, really.


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jnanian said:
???

if you aren't shooting neopan, how do you seal the roll shut after you expose it, before YOU process it ?
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OH those licking clue tabs? Hahaha!!! Right before Fuji had their price hike, I ended up buying a whole bunch of pro packs of Acros100 in 120 and that's all I've been using the past few months, plus I've been shooting sheet film so much lately I forgot! Hah! (Don't worry the sheet film is Ilford but I just love that sticky tab and the hook with Fuji films, I know it maybe is stupid, but it's one of the main reasons I've been sticking to shooting them lately besides having extra stock of it, especially in the cold weather, it makes it a heck of a lot easier to load your camera with cold fingers that hardly will move.
 

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yeAh , no sticky tab on sheet film unless you get the " special" film.
 

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StoneNYC said:
Must be a euro thing, I've never seen that, I also don't see the point as I process all my film myself.
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Some roll films have a sealing tab that is lick and stick tape.
 

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Xmas said:
Some roll films have a sealing tab that is lick and stick tape.
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Yeah, I am just an idiot, I was thinking he was talking about the send away envelopes that you send the film to have it processed, but I didn't think Milford had such a thing, because they don't have that here in the US as far as I've seen, so I some reason was forgetting about the lick tab. On the role film because I haven't used them in a little while as I said I bought a ton of Acros100 when Fuji had their announcement about price hike.

However I specifically bought the Acros100 because I like doing nice photography and I like it's reciprocity rates, however now that I have a 4 x 5, most of my night shooting is done with that, because it doesn't take batteries (that die the cold), so I kind of wish now that I had some more PanF+ instead, but I like to run through my supply first before stocking up on something different. Plus I have 250 feet of HP5+ in 46mm and 70mm to run through before I really need to pick up any more film, so I'm good for quite a while on the roll film front...

The funny thing is, I really do like Tri-X it's a wonderful film in itself, but there are so many other great films that I enjoy using for so many more applications, it's sort of ends up getting overshadowed (for me) and I know someday it will be gone, and I'll probably regret not shooting more of it, but I think that ultimately The world will survive without it.
 

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Roger Cole said:
Well that starts to explain why I can never get the Fuji to stick. I've been licking it. I may need to shoot another roll just to experiment with sealing the darned thing!
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Roger you're too much!

If you look at the tab, there will be a little semi-circle pull area, you have to pull up on that and it exposes a piece of tape which you then layover and wrap the role as normal...

If you actually look at the pulltab there are the words "pull here" if memory serves me...
 

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Wait - you're right and I haven't been trying to lick those - been a while since I shot a roll of Fuji and I'd forgotten. Great idea BUT I do remember correctly that all too often I can't get then to stick properly. Would be great if it worked consistently.


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Hmm, it's very sticky... I've only once had a problem, and it was because I pulled to hard and actually ripped the whole tab off in my eagerness to get to the next roll haha

Yes please do try again, perhaps it's been improved. What I like most is that they are unmistakable, so in a dark bag I'm not fighting with the roll to have to cut the tab because I can just un-peel it, it has more tensile strength than peel away strength so it won't come loose just sitting there or getting knocked around, but still peels easily
 

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erikg said:
Agfa had the best tasting tape, just sayin.
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Actually I stand corrected. I have some old Agfapan 25 in 120 that has great tasting tape, better than Ilford.
 

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I have another take on the taste of film end-of-roll tape. I know too well what Ciproflaxacin taste like from prostatitis. Believe me, film end-of-roll tape is downright tasty, no mater who manufactures it. I've got a buddy who is either too stubborn or too stupid to listen to me and seal off the end of the roll. He just lets the leader paper hang there of it's natural curl. And then asks me dumb questions as to why the last frames come out ruined.
 
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