In a world without Tri-X...

Pioneer said:

And don't forget Tigger!!

I have to agree with the deprived childhood. You must go to the Library immediately and catch up on this serious literary gap. I suggest you take along a child or grandchild (yours preferably but someone may be willing to loan their own to you for a short time) to properly explain all the finer points of finding your way around the Hundred Acre Wood!

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Thanks, but I never liked story books. Always preferred books where you could learn how to do something.

Ahhh, I bet you enjoy the occasional storybook. Even how-to books can turn into storybooks. I read Capa's autobiography, that was a true storybook!

Tom1956 said:

Thanks, but I never liked story books. Always preferred books where you could learn how to do something.

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Reading Pooh teaches some of the most important lessons in life that there are to learn. If everyone took those lessons to heart, the world would be a far less contentious place in which to live.



Ken

Ken Nadvornick said:

Reading Pooh teaches some of the most important lessons in life that there are to learn. If everyone took those lessons to heart, the world would be a far less contentious place in which to live.



Ken

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+1.

Ken Nadvornick said:

Reading Pooh teaches some of the most important lessons in life that there are to learn. If everyone took those lessons to heart, the world would be a far less contentious place in which to live.



Ken

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Agreed, those books can teach you a LOT about how to do things, and not just how to get honey from the honey bee's but how to treat people and how to interact etc... Perhaps I should have read them even more

Ken Nadvornick said:

Reading Pooh teaches some of the most important lessons in life that there are to learn. If everyone took those lessons to heart, the world would be a far less contentious place in which to live.



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My mom read Pooh books to me as a child at bedtime. And has always called me Pooh. My son is more like Tigger (the bouncy part especially) and I can't wait 'til he likes them enough (not sure what age is best - he's still into board books).

Christopher Robin in the Winnie the Pooh stories was modeled after a real person - Christopher Robin Milne, who is A.A. Milne's son.

I set up our home network when the kids were little and very much into Pooh. So the network has a Winnie the Pooh theme. It's the Hundred Acre Wood, and the computers have names which are names of characters from the books. The network started with two computers, whose names were Kanga (for the parents) and Roo (for the kids).

My daughter loved Pooh when she was little, and my son loved Tigger. Fitting that he should have loved Tigger, because he's such a bouncy kid, even though he's now a teenager.

ME Super said:

Christopher Robin in the Winnie the Pooh stories was modeled after a real person - Christopher Robin Milne, who is A.A. Milne's son.

I set up our home network when the kids were little and very much into Pooh. So the network has a Winnie the Pooh theme. It's the Hundred Acre Wood, and the computers have names which are names of characters from the books. The network started with two computers, whose names were Kanga (for the parents) and Roo (for the kids).

My daughter loved Pooh when she was little, and my son loved Tigger. Fitting that he should have loved Tigger, because he's such a bouncy kid, even though he's now a teenager.

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Just found put my GF dislikes whinnie the pooh because as a kid she thought the stories were boring...

StoneNYC said:

Just found put my GF dislikes whinnie the pooh because as a kid she thought the stories were boring...

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They probably are. We got all of life's lessons anybody needs in Sunday school, and that was only an hour a week. Enough for anybody.

we are slipping into a children's world where the hero had a headache from physical torture...

bump bump on each stair step...

momus said:

I'm surprised that you couldn't find Tri-X film. A quick check shows that it's available at Freestyle in 100' rolls for 35mm, in 24 and 36 exposure for 35mm rolls, and in 120 format. Great prices too. I like HP5, and it looks fine in Acufine and D76. While the negs look different than Tri-X, the prints are close enough. Tri-X is such a wonderful film that I'm sure someone will continue to make it even if Kodak goes away. Kodak could sell that formula for a ton of money.

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I went looking for Tri-X in 120 size here in Tokyo. No luck finding any in the largest Yobodashi store so I bought a box of TMax 400.

Okay y'all - wish me luck! DIY studio is up and ready to go. Fingers crossed, the tiny humans will give me something to work with.


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Sweet mother of God... You people that take pictures of children for a living have my undying admiration and respect. These were my children and i thought my head was going to explode. Three rolls of delta 3200 and one of tri-x and i will be stunned if I got anything worth using. The upside is that the DIY studio is awesome and my test run with the new lights went well. So...live and learn. Then put the kids to bed and hide out in the darkroom drinking Malbec, eating twizzlers, and developing film.


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Having tried to photograph my active 3 year old recently, I wonder if giving them the Malbec first is the way to go.

Just kidding! But….

I do think kids act better for cameras when it isn't mom or dad doing the shooting.

Ruby, don't wait till almost bedtime to photograph them. They are more apt to be tired and uncooperative. Get them in to be photographed morning or mid day.

rubyfalls said:

..... These were my children and i thought my head was going to explode. Tapatalk

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I have become the undisputed master of the "blurry ear" image!

Much sound advice on photographing children. Mine are 2, 5, and 14 and I really only subject them to planned group shots once a year. The oldest (who also is an analog shooter!) can be easily bribed to sit with promises of film. The other two are pretty much catch as catch can. Here is a shot of my oldest:


You can probably guess this is tri-x. Was also still adjusting a bit to the change from 6x6 to 645. All that extra space!


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Dinesh said:

I have become the undisputed master of the "blurry ear" image!

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Ha ha! About half of my shots of my five-year-old are mostly a blur of hair and fabric. She likes to spin.


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rubyfalls said:

Ha ha! About half of my shots of my five-year-old are mostly a blur of hair and fabric. She likes to spin.


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1/500th a second and D3200....

StoneNYC said:

1/500th a second and D3200....

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Ha ha - now I have 4 rolls of exposed D3200 queued up for development. Just waiting for some free time. Usually I can work late at night when everyone else is sleeping, but it is about 55 F in my darkroom right now.


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rubyfalls said:

Ha ha - now I have 4 rolls of exposed D3200 queued up for development. Just waiting for some free time. Usually I can work late at night when everyone else is sleeping, but it is about 55 F in my darkroom right now.


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Wait you shot these a while ago? Or you actually took my advice? Lol

Space heaters. I have an electric oil filled radiator type that keeps my darkroom comfy all winter. No AC for summer though when temps even in my basement can be in the upper 70s.


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use plastic basin with water for tempering and wollen top over blouse

hypo eliminator and minimum water wash

when the ice melts you will be sorry

Dear All,

I have read through this thread :

Firstly : NO I cannot imagine a world without Tri-X, from the outset, its a great film, always was, still is, but I am partisan obviously so I love HP5+ more...which I do.

Second : KODAK has a history of photo manufacturing second to none, with amazing technical developments and some great people, some of them I have had the pleasure to meet, eg people like Ron Mowrey.

In the thread there were lots of 'what ifs' and then references to ourselves.

So a few answers... yes... we could make the whole world demand for monochrome, paper and film.. our coating machine is much smaller than one of KODAKs, but it is still very, very, big 400m long ( in two 200m lengths folded back on itself and it of course coats on all substrates and so is very flexible but it can still coat at 200m2 a minute ( thats about 3,500 36 exposure films each minute if you are interested ).

Raw materials : Yes, the photo industry has undergone huge change, lots of industries have and you have to adapt, chemicals are not usually an issue, we have developed our own in house Kilo Lab where we can synthesise or manufacture the chemicals ( down to Kilo quantities, as the name suggests ) that we need but can no longer source in the quantity required or the price we desire, its why we have R&D and why we have Chemistry PHD's to develop, test, approve or manufacture these products.

Yes, you face challenges like cassettes, you solve it by purchasing the machines and making your own and now we make better cassettes than we were getting before ( so less waste etc ).

But some of the comments were a bit off the mark such as the what if's about KODAK, from a USA perspective obviously KODAK was a giant and an Icon ( and deservedly so ) and obviously in Colour products a laviathon, but in the much smaller world of monochrome, and specifically mono paper we outsold KODAK many times over, even in the heydays of the 80's and 90's and yes, even in the USA, and so the premise that we bought raw materials 'on the back of' KODAK etc, was a little wide of the mark, although we undoubtedly did, and do source from the same organisations.

But lets look at our own Marketing philosophy, photography and the artisanship of printing requiries choices for photographers and printers, we endeavour to offer choices in our own offerings and we make more mono products and have a range wider than virtually all the other mono manufacturers put together, we rejoice in the fact other makers are still supplying, it helps ensure the world of silver based photography goes on...

Hence...a world without Tri-X would be a place we would not like.

Simon : ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

Well said, Simon. Thank you for sharing that.

Viva HP5+!