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I'm going to miss you Neopan 400....

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HP5+ and Kentmere 400 are more similar to neopan than Delta but YMMV.
 

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If HP5 is similar to Neopan, then all black-and-white films are similar to Neopan. Which is approximately true...the differences are admittedly minor. It's just the minor differences that make up a film's character. I wish I knew what the secret sauce was, so that I could try to mimic it.
 

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Some very nice examples here from this film. I shot Neopan from time to time in Japan where it was always readily available, but must admit that it didn't make a big difference for my style of shooting compared to TX. It is gone now in Japan, I haven't seen any stocks, neither at Yodobashi nor at smaller camera shops when I was there last November. Ironically, while being extinct in Japan it is still available here in Germany where it had already been discontinued some time ago, only to be reintroduced again, but at a hefty price tag, around 50% higher than the rest of the 400 ISO b+w stuff. It seems that it didn't get much love or interest after its re-introduction, as one big dealer / distributor is selling off remaining stocks for a couple of months now already at a big discount (3.60/roll, almost half of the original price after re-introduction) and it appears they still have plenty stock ... There are lots of alternatives/competitors for 400 ISO film, but of course if you are completely into one film, it seem impossible to replace it. I recently bought some rolls of Kentmere 400, which is very very cheap around here (less than 3 EUR/roll) and actually quite like the results it gives me Xtol. It is grainy but the grain is of a pleasant type and I must say, I also like the tonality.
 

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Currently I am printing our three month European trip of 2014, which was spent in Germany – Spain – Germany. During that trip I had the chance to pick up some Kentmere 400 film in the centre of Seville. I knew my NP400 days would be coming to an end so I was thinking about the direction I would be going in, this was my first play with Kentmere 400.

While I use and will continue to use FP4+ it is not my travel film, I need the speed of 400 films, which as a matter of interest, I almost always end up using at 320 ASA after conducting my own tests.

I have extensively used HP5 and HP5+ since HP5 was introduced, I have minimal use of Tri-X 320 personally, although working in a lab/studio complex it was pretty much our standard film, but I couldn’t afford Kodak film for personal use, so I worked out how to get the best from HP5+ and was very content, until I discovered Neopan 400.

Neopan 400 has a very nice tonal range, better in my eyes and with my technique than HP5+. Ilford FP4+ is possibly better in both its grain structure and its tonality and is my first go to film for 4x5 work. In fact, a short while ago when the Australian dollar was around parity with the USD I picked up 1,000 sheets of FP4+, which should see me good in that format for some time.

Getting back to the replacement for my dearly loved and recently departed NP400, I am currently seeing Kentmere 400 as the replacement film. Why? As mentioned earlier, I am currently printing my holiday pictures. I decided to concentrate on Germany first, followed by Spain, in other words printing in a chronological order. As I picked up the Kentmere in Seville, I started shooting it immediately in the manner of one roll of Kentmere, followed by a roll of NP400, followed by a roll of Kentmere, you get the picture. The idea was to sort of foolproof myself from a possibly bad situation.

I rated the Kentmere at 320 ASA, same as the NP400 and developed both in D76 1+1 separately upon getting home. Prior to bulk developing my Kentmere film, I used one roll cut into three test rolls to work out a good developing strategy; I was very impressed with what I was seeing. Bulk holiday prints are also being done in a chronological order, meaning that I’m printing one roll of NP400 followed by a roll of Kentmere 400.

Yesterday I laid out sixty 12.7cm x 20.3cm (5x8”) on our tables from the Spanish part of our trip. The prints from the two films are indistinguishable from each other, in both tonality and look. In the darkroom there is almost no difference in printing technique, except for a 1/8th difference in density required to bring the same subject shot on the two films at the same time to look identical. All printing is being done at grade 3½ for normal subjects, and on grade 2½ on the white buildings one sees in Spain. While all of my prints are being done at or near full frame on the aforementioned paper size, I did do an extreme enlargement of the same subject that was shot on the two films. I enlarged so that the image on the baseboard was 1m on the long measurement, then took a sectional print on 20.3 x 25.4cm paper. I was very pleased, as apart from a 3/8 stop density adjustment, nothing else was required to produce two virtually identical prints.

I think that the Kentmere 400 film, is a jewel in Ilford’s range that is currently under estimated by many people. The fact that I believe it was introduced as a film that could be manufactured and sold more cheaply than Ilford’s two main conventional B&W films, allowing Ilford to enter into a lower priced market without cheapening their hero films, is wonderful news to us photographers who actually purchase new film.

I cannot supply samples as I don’t have any means to scan prints, which in some ways is a pity. Another factor I have found out, is that print scans generally don’t do justice, although they aren’t too bad. Apart from that, I have picked up a new model to work with and shooting, developing and printing, will have precedence for the next couple of months if things work out well for both of us.

Mick.
 

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Mick, thanks for that info. However, Kentmere 400 is only available in 35mm. That doesn't help us 120 guys. I loved Neopan 400 in 120 and shot it almost exclusively. I developed it in Xtol 1:1 and loved it. I'm sad to see it go but have moved on to Tri-x and HP5, both in ID-11 1:1. Every film has its subtle differences but I'm happy with those two films.
 

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I'll say that was a legendary fill flash picture, I didn't notice it at all. Running Nikon F3 bodies I'm really aware how inept they are with flash, decades ago I had an Olympus OM1 followed by an OM1MD.

Regardless of which camera, lens or flash you have used, the NP400 perfectly shows what you are capable of doing with it, you have mastered your technique to a very high level, allowing you to take very good pictures seemingly effortlessly; although I know that is really not the case.

Mick.
 

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Is TMAX 400 or Tri X in either D76 or XTOL close?
 

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Have a look at the characteristic curves, Fuji show a graph for D76 development with a curve in it which goes the opposite way to Acros (curve down noticeably rather than a slight curve up). Tri X seems to show a similar curve such as that given here and as shared recently on this forum:
http://www.fotoimport.no/filmtest/fkd76.html

The effect is a bit less so with HP5. I bought a 10 pack of Tri X and have started working my way through it even though I have 5 rolls of neopan sat in the freezer, never shot Tri X till now so it may do the job for me.
 
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Why is it always when I'm down to my last few rolls that I start to really appreciate a film more than I had in the past?

My daughter Mimi at the new Farm Burger in Berkeley, Nikon N80, 50/1.8 AF lens, Neopan 400 in HC-110:

 

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Lovely picture Richard!
 

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I really like this film in Pyrocat HD. D-76 is good, too. Aren't freezers great?

That's a fantastic combination for sure and I was really sad when I used up my last bulk roll.
 

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Great shot. You are lucky to have such gorgeous 'models' and good taste in film. I just put my Z100/2.8 in a shop for sale. Top lens, and only looks like a std lens to the casual observer. I kinda hope it doesn't sell...
 
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Both taken with a Konica Hexar AF, Neopan 400 in HC-110:



 

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