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I have a 20 year old roll of XP2 and would like to try it in a Kowa six that doesn't get used much if at all. I read somewhere that I should adjust 1 stop per decade. I also want to develop it with b&w Ilford Ilfosol 3 since it's the only developer I have.
Is it possible to use b&w chemistry and what do you recommend for film speed.
 

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You will get the best results giving it C-41 processing. That is what it was designed for.

That said, 20 yr old film is not going to give great results no matter how much extra exposure you give it. Spend $6 and buy a new roll of film!
 

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There are some threads in here about processing XP2 in B&W chemistry. Apparently the method can yield good results. I’ve not tried it (yet) so I cannot confirm.
 

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I have a 20 year old roll of XP2 and would like to try it in a Kowa six that doesn't get used much if at all. I read somewhere that I should adjust 1 stop per decade. I also want to develop it with b&w Ilford Ilfosol 3 since it's the only developer I have.
Is it possible to use b&w chemistry and what do you recommend for film speed.
It can be developed in black-and-white chemistry but it is very soft shell to begin with even that yours is so old I would rate it can be developed in black-and-white chemistry but it is very soft to begin with even that yours is so old I would read it at no more than 200 or 100 ISO and develop it N+ to boost contrast. Also be prepared to print it on a harder grade of paper. Also, be prepared to print it on a harder grade of paper.
 

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The majority of my photography these days is XP2 Super in B&W chemicals. I like it for the lack of grain and the ease of development compared to C-41. If you choose to expose it at EI 100, I would use HC-110 1+50 for 5 minutes. I haven't tried it in Ilfosol 3. Just lately I have been experimenting again with using at 200 in Diafine (and in a motorised Rondinax!)
Here's my experiments: Ilford XP2 Super in Black & White Chemistry and here's an example from this week in Diafine:

85mm Selfie
by chrism229, on Flickr

Good luck with the Ilfosol 3!
 

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drmoss_ca, I was going to point him to your work on LF, good work.
 
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I just shot the roll at ASA 100. I saw a chart that says 21 minutes at ASA 400 so what should my dev. time be?
 

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This is pure guesswork, so listen to others as well. My rule of thumb is that if you double the exposure, you cut the development by one third. So from 400 down to 200 means cutting 21 minutes to 14 minutes. And then stepping down to 100, means cutting the 14 down to ~10 minutes. Anyone else got any thoughts?
 
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This is pure guesswork, so listen to others as well. My rule of thumb is that if you double the exposure, you cut the development by one third. So from 400 down to 200 means cutting 21 minutes to 14 minutes. And then stepping down to 100, means cutting the 14 down to ~10 minutes. Anyone else got any thoughts?
I cut it down to 100 because I read that 1 stop for every decade and the film is 20 years old so would your rule still apply?
 

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That's something I'm not sure about. I know that ISO 400 XP2 can be exposed at 100, and gets developed in HC-110 for 5 minutes, whereas it takes 10 minutes if exposed at 400. But your film is no longer natively 400 (ignoring the fact, for now, that XP2 is probably actually an ISO 200 film). The decades have made it a 100 ISO film. All my experience with XP2 is with fresh (or at least, frozen) film. Unless someone knows better, I'd give it 10-11 minutes and expect a result that is no more than a stop out.
 

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Is it the current XP2 Super, or is it the older XP2?
 

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The majority of my photography these days is XP2 Super in B&W chemicals. I like it for the lack of grain and the ease of development compared to C-41. If you choose to expose it at EI 100, I would use HC-110 1+50 for 5 minutes. I haven't tried it in Ilfosol 3. Just lately I have been experimenting again with using at 200 in Diafine (and in a motorised Rondinax!)
Here's my experiments: Ilford XP2 Super in Black & White Chemistry and here's an example from this week in Diafine:

85mm Selfie
by chrism229, on Flickr

Good luck with the Ilfosol 3!
What a great portrait.
 
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Cut a small strip of 3-4 frames from the roll in total darkness and develop only this strip for, say, 10 minutes. Analyse the resulting negatives and based on your findings, increase/decrease development time appropriately for the rest of the roll.
 
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I just developed the roll and is up for drying. Quick look holding up to the light looks promising. I used the Ilfosol 3 for 21 minutes with an extra 1/2 oz dev.
 
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The roll came out disappointing and very curled. Could barely get into the film holder to scan.
 
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Here is one of the better ones
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Here is one of the better ones
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That looks pretty good to me. Did you do much post-processing on that shot or is it pretty well straight? I might have to give XP2+ "Super" a try. I used XP2 in my old Kodak Medalist II 2 1/4" x years ago, respooled of course, and that was a match made in heaven. I used Ilfords XP2 developer kit at the time and that developer kit never failed to turn out excellent negatives for wet printing. There were no scanners or PC's for me at that time so wet printing was it. Rated at ASA 200 made a perfect negative for printing. I wish Ilford still made or farmed out for making those C41/XP2 developing kits. I still have one complete Ilford XP2 developing kit setting on my shelf, but it's just there for looks since it's far past usable. Still, I'm impressed with the results you folks are having. JohnW
 

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I don't want to become a bore, so I'll say it once more and shut up - XP2 Super is perfectly good in B&W chemicals, and you need not go to the expense or the bother of a C-41 process. Plus you get pretty much zero grain (the example below is 35mm, not 120, and I don't get so little grain from traditional B&W films in 35mm). Today is my fortieth wedding anniversary, so I sat the Boss down and stared at her whilst I pressed the cable release (yes, that's right, I shaved off the beard!). XP2 Super in Diafine:

 

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I don't want to become a bore, so I'll say it once more and shut up - XP2 Super is perfectly good in B&W chemicals, and you need not go to the expense or the bother of a C-41 process. Plus you get pretty much zero grain (the example below is 35mm, not 120, and I don't get so little grain from traditional B&W films in 35mm). Today is my fortieth wedding anniversary, so I sat the Boss down and stared at her whilst I pressed the cable release (yes, that's right, I shaved off the beard!). XP2 Super in Diafine:

Great shot and congratulations! 49 this Oct.7th and I'm not shaving my beard off. We're both very lucky to have women who put up with us this long. I know I certainly don't deserve what I have and I probably wouldn't be here right now without her proper guidance. I have a very easy time of making the wrong choices and she always has the perfect second opinion. As to XP2 and developer........................do you think Diafine is about as good as it gets for XP2S? The shot of you and your wife certainly looks as good as anything I ever got with the old XP2 and Ilfords kit. I really like the look. JohnW
 
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XP2 Super is perfectly good in B&W chemicals, and you need not go to the expense or the bother of a C-41 process.

I second this. Your work and my own experiments with this film has convinced me that XP2 Super is a fantastic film for use as a traditional B&W film. My only regret is it's not available in large format.
 
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