Ilford Rapid Fixer: 7 Days Storage Only??

GarageBoy said:

So is my 1/2 bottle from 8 months ago dead?

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I wouldn't have thought so but do the film leader test.

pentaxuser

GarageBoy said:

So is my 1/2 bottle from 8 months ago dead?

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Probably not, but it is past the point where Ilford would back you up if it failed. Sort of like if you had a roll of HP5 that was dated Dec 2013. Its probably fine.

cmacd123 said:

Probably not, but it is past the point where Ilford would back you up if it failed. Sort of like if you had a roll of HP5 that was dated Dec 2013. Its probably fine.

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I'd be surprised if Ilford were to repudiate all responsibility for a film that, as of now, was only 7 weeks beyond expiry unless it had spent most of its life stored in extreme conditions.

pentaxuser

pentaxuser said:

I'd be surprised if Ilford were to repudiate all responsibility for a film that, as of now, was only 7 weeks beyond expiry unless it had spent most of its life stored in extreme conditions.

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I am sure that they would actually be happy to help under those circumstances, but the Implied warranty of merchantability would be out the window as they told you to develop it by Dec 31 and you did not follow that instruction.

The point I was really trying to make is that if you are within the storage recomendation you should expect things to work, if you go past the recommendation all bets are off.

I personally only had one bad bottle of Ilford fixer, it had been partly used and was left for a couple of years and the Sulphur started to make itself known.

Dear Rattymouse,

As always we have information on the product label but a full TI ( technical information ) sheet on our website that goes into great detail regarding the product and its properties.

It goes without saying that all our tests are meticulous and the statements regarding the performance
of the product should always conform and match the statements made.

If you ever have a question or do not believe the product met your expectation within the stated parameters of the product you should contact our technical services department at Mobberely and they will help you, whenever you call or e.mail its always good to have the batch number ready.

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

Thank you Simon. I'll do so if my concerns ever go beyond the theoretical and into the practical. As of now I'm using this bottle of fixer without any issues.

One of the advantages of rotary processing is that you don't reuse chemistry and you use a lot less for every run than you would need for inversion processing. You also eliminate a lot of variables. When I process two rolls, I mix 50ml of Ilford Rapid Fix with 200ml water. That is tossed during the run. At that rate, I get 40 rolls out of a 1 liter bottle, which seems pretty good to me. The stock solution in the factory bottle seems to last virtually forever even if you take a while to get through 40 rolls...

nsurit said:

Does anyone use Hypo-check or am I the only duck in that pond. Oh, and I do use Ilford rapid fix again and again. Bill Barber

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The "Hypo Check" product that I am familiar with (small bottle w/ drop dispenser) is not as accurate as doing a clip test. I use clip-tests for film fixer and capacity recommendations for bath 1 of two-bath print fixing.

There should be no problem re-using fixer until its capacity is reached as long as it hasn't been stored too long. Just keep track of both.

Best,

Doremus

Doremus Scudder said:

The "Hypo Check" product that I am familiar with (small bottle w/ drop dispenser) is not as accurate as doing a clip test.

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I still use it - but change fixer at the first sign of Precipitate. The instructions say that only a permanent white cloud is exhausted, but if any white forms I figure it is overdue, and in the case of Film run it a couple of minutes in the fresh batch. My Hypo check is probably the oldest bottle of chemicals I still use, although it is almost out. (the stuff freestyle sells seems to be the same product)