ILFORD Photo & The 'Impossible' Project

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19th January 2009 : HARMAN technology Limited : Mobberley : CHESHIRE UK

ILFORD PHOTO INVOLVEMENT IN DEVELOPMENT OF NEW 'POLAROID' STYLE INSTANT FILM :

After the decision by Polaroid in 2008 to cease production of its instant films, a much loved method of photography looked set to disappear forever. However, leading photo-imaging company, HARMAN technology Limited can confirm it is now involved in a new venture which could deliver welcome news to millions of Polaroid instant camera fans across the world.

The manufacturer - whose brands include the ILFORD monochrome analogue range, HARMAN PHOTO inkjet papers and KENTMERE PHOTOGRAPHIC products - is supporting 'The Impossible Project' which is being spearheaded by a Dutch business known as Impossible B.V.

Formed by a group of businessmen and a number of ex-Polaroid employees, Impossible B.V. has signed a 10-year lease on part of Polaroid's former factory in Enschede, Netherlands and acquired some of Polaroid's original production machining for producing integral films for SX70 cameras.

As the business aims not to rebuild Polaroid integral film but to develop a new product with new and improved characteristics, it has turned to HARMAN and its 130 years of experience in the production of analogue films for product development guidance and additional insight on manufacturing methods.

HARMAN's product development team has confirmed the manufacturer is able to create the desired instant film but negotiations continue as to the extent of future involvement.

As Howard Hopwood, HARMAN technology's Chairman, points out:

"Recognising the almost cult status and huge following of Polaroid instant cameras, we would love to be involved in any initiative which preserves their future use. To this end, we did try to take on production of Polaroid instant film in the latter half of 2008 but could not reach a commercially viable agreement with the Polaroid Corporation.

The Impossible Project represents a new glimmer of hope but we must also stress that discussions are still in the early stages. We would like nothing more than to reach a satisfactory agreement and should this happen, a prototype could be unveiled by late 2009 with a view to full scale production commencing is 2010".

ENDS :

Simon : ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
 

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Well thanks for the update and good luck to all on this project, I will support this with my wallet if/when the time comes.
 

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Thanks for sharing and clarifying the involvement of HARMAN technology, Simon. Interpreting this press release, I would say: it's good that HARMAN is involved, but also comforting to see that 'the big risk' is not for HARMAN. The right balance between sharing expertise and limiting the risks for HARMAN.

I think it will certainly not be an easy task, but the involvement of dedicated former Polaroid employees is comforting: it just might work! If anyone can do it, it's them in cooperation with HARMAN.
 

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Fantastic, Simon. Best of luck!
 

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Thanks for the update; can you comment on what made a difference between the earlier 2008 venture and the current one?
 
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Dear Michel,

Not really, in 2008 with POLAROID it was just not a deal we could agree to, this one is possible, even if its called 'impossible' !!!

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
 

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would love to see you guys also make a pull apart instant film like the fuji FP3000b and FP100b. But hey, one step at a time.....hope this project takes off, great news!!!
 

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This is good news and I hope it is successful.
This is slightly off topic but is there a possible update available on the production of a substitute paper for the discontinued Kentmere Document art ?
Word has it that this was in the pipeline.
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John.
 

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Good luck! If nothing else, this project is an advertisement of Ilford/Harman commitment to fine art photography.

Just don't go broke trying to make this work! If it turns into a cash sinkhole, pull the plug! Don't jeopardize your other product lines that we all depend upon so much.
 

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Just curious: why would you want Ilford to produce these films if they are already available from Fuji?

would love to see you guys also make a pull apart instant film like the fuji FP3000b and FP100b. But hey, one step at a time.....hope this project takes off, great news!!!
 

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Just curious: why would you want Ilford to produce these films if they are already available from Fuji?

That was a curious question, as the Fuji films (by my personal use and testing) are vastly superior to the similar peel-apart films last made by Polaroid.
 

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Dear Michel,

Not really, in 2008 with POLAROID it was just not a deal we could agree to, this one is possible, even if its called 'impossible' !!!

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :


Due to Ilford's history of B&W product development, is it safe to assume that your contributions to this endeavour are going to center around B&W instant products?

Can you offer any further information as to what types of products they are interested in improving? I take it that it is going to be more professional-line products than the amateur stuff like iZone.
 

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Just curious: why would you want Ilford to produce these films if they are already available from Fuji?

While there is no denying the fact that the Fuji instant films are better than Polaroid's, in my opinion films like FP100C lack the qualities that made films like 669 special: those beautiful, slightly faded colors.
 

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The OP, the article at their web site, and the discussion on the other thread makes it appear that this will be an SX-70 integral type color product.

PE
 

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Seems to me Ilford could or might offer a variation to the offerings from Fuji. In regard to the film from Fuji; it is indeed a great product and it would most likely do more harm than good for ilford to go head to head with it. I would not think there is enough demand for the two to compete.

Maybe my statement needed more thought before posting. I still wish the best of luck on the current endeavor, although I would not likely be buying any.

Jason
 

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I think the integral film market is probably the widest market for instant films, for purposes such as evidence gathering, accident documentation, as well as "art" purposes. I can understand why members of this forum may not be aware of all the possible markets for integral film, since we tend to be more centered on conventional film and processing, although there is a Polaroid and Toy Camera forum here.
 

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Simon,

I wish all parties the best of success with this project. Although it's not something I'd rush out and buy (but who knows?), it's so good to hear the promise of new analogue materials when almost everyone else is declaring that 'film is dead'. Good on you all; let's hope it comes to fruition.
 

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If the polaroid type products involve colour imaging, does the Harman involvement in this project demonstrate colour film manufacturing capabilities?

Tom.


Ilford/Harman in England has made color films and papers over the years, they just choose to limit themselves to b/w now. Their modern coating line is quite capable of multi-layer coatings for b/w or color materials. As a custom coating vendor I have no doubt they have the technical ability to coat color emulsions.

I am unsure if the former Polaroid plant acquired by Impossible B.V. did coating, or just did cutting and assembly. If they did not do coating, then they NEED a partner to coat the light-sensitive materials. Polaroid may have shipped bulk rolls of "film" to the plant for finishing into final product.
 
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