Ilford = new company?

modafoto · Jan 6, 2005

Hi

I heard a very funny thing in the super market today. I was standing in the electronics department and a customer was informed about papers for ink-jet printing of photographs. The salesman was holding a pack of Ilford paper and said:

"This paper comes from Ilford which is a brand new company from USA and they are the best manufacturer of ink and paper".

I died laughing...! That is total ignorance!

Morten

Tom Stanworth · Jan 6, 2005

modafoto said:
Hi

I heard a very funny thing in the super market today. I was standing in the electronics department and a customer was informed about papers for ink-jet printing of photographs. The salesman was holding a pack of Ilford paper and said:

"This paper comes from Ilford which is a brand new company from USA and they are the best manufacturer of ink and paper".

I died laughing...! That is total ignorance!

Morten

Yes, but did she buy some?

Nick Zentena · Jan 6, 2005

I didn't really follow what happened with Ilford. Here it's pretty common for bankrupt companies to be "killed" and "new" ones to replace them. If you fly Air Canada today it's a brand new company. I guess it's to make sure everybody knows the old companies debts are gone.

roteague · Jan 6, 2005

Nick Zentena said:
I didn't really follow what happened with Ilford. Here it's pretty common for bankrupt companies to be "killed" and "new" ones to replace them. If you fly Air Canada today it's a brand new company. I guess it's to make sure everybody knows the old companies debts are gone.

It probably depends upon what country on what happens to the company. Here in Hawaii, both of our regional airlines - Hawaiian and Aloha - are in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Dave Parker · Jan 6, 2005

Ilford has been selling ink jet paper for a number of years now.

Dave

glennfromwy · Jan 6, 2005

Satinsnow said:
Ilford has been selling ink jet paper for a number of years now.

Dave

And it's made in Switzerland by the branch of Ilford that is not having problems.

Bob F. · Jan 7, 2005

Just goes to show you can tell digitographers anything and they will believe it.... "

Bob.

modafoto · Jan 7, 2005

Tom Stanworth said:
Yes, but did she buy some?

Yeah! And the paper is BTW great!

Les McLean · Jan 7, 2005

glennfromwy said:
And it's made in Switzerland by the branch of Ilford that is not having problems.

It's researched in Switzerland but most of it was coated in Mobberley England.

modafoto · Jan 7, 2005

Les McLean said:
It's researched in Switzerland but most of it was coated in Mobberley England.

That is NOT very compatible with Ilford being a brand new USA-based company

And I recall something from the past called HP3 from something called Ilford, too

Thomas Wagner · Jan 7, 2005

Another example of "brand recognition"? I am sick and tired of seeing products on the shelves supposedly made by major manufacturers (like Bell and Howell making a shaver).

Seems there is big business in selling your name.

Tom

Les McLean · Jan 7, 2005

Thomas Wagner said:
Another example of "brand recognition"? I am sick and tired of seeing products on the shelves supposedly made by major manufacturers (like Bell and Howell making a shaver).

Seems there is big business in selling your name.

Tom

Ilford Switzerland and Ilford UK are the same company, at least before the recent problems in the UK

BlackandWhite40 · Jan 7, 2005

ILFORD UK is in receivership. ILFORD Switzerland are not (yet!)
Both companies are for sale.
Inkjet is manufactured by both sites.
B&W is only manufactured in the UK.

ajuk · Nov 25, 2005

BlackandWhite40 said:
ILFORD UK is in receivership. ILFORD Switzerland are not (yet!)
Both companies are for sale.
Inkjet is manufactured by both sites.
B&W is only manufactured in the UK.

Is this still the case?

ann · Nov 25, 2005

Ilford was purchased by a group from the management team. They are alive and producing film, paper, etc. and have plans for releasing other products in the future.

there are many threads here discussing this issue.

Andy K · Nov 25, 2005

BlackandWhite40 said:
ILFORD UK is in receivership. ILFORD Switzerland are not (yet!)
Both companies are for sale.
Inkjet is manufactured by both sites.
B&W is only manufactured in the UK.

Ilford Photo was bought out by it's management. It is now trading as normal as Ilford Photo/HARMAN Technology Ltd, See: http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pr/0605pruts.html

Ilford Imaging Switzerland was bought by Oji Paper Co of Japan. See: http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pr/purchaseILFORD.html

rbarker · Nov 26, 2005

Andy has the bottom line correct. The UK film and photo paper division, and the Swiss digital imaging division, were subsidiaries of the UK Ilford parent corporation. Each was sold to different investors. The U.S. Ilford was and still is a separate corporation, not (directly) involved in the receivership, and serves the marketing/distribution functions in the U.S. and Canada.

Matt5791 · Nov 27, 2005

Ilford has been profitable for the last 8 months - and re-releasing various discontinued products.

See my thread about my letter from the Chairman!

Matt

EASmithV · Aug 22, 2009

Thomas Wagner said:
Another example of "brand recognition"? I am sick and tired of seeing products on the shelves supposedly made by major manufacturers (like Bell and Howell making a shaver).

Seems there is big business in selling your name.

Tom

If it's a case of brand recognition, it seems to be a failure.

trotkiller · Aug 22, 2009

OMG a 4 year old thread rises from the dead!!!!!! the zombies are coming!!!! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cmacd123 · Aug 24, 2009

Zombie threads are the least of our wories, - but I would be happy if we raised some zombie photo product makers from the dead...

BTW, things like Polaroid TV sets, Westinghouse home décor, and Bell and Howell shavers come about because the rights to the trademark can be sold or rented, and when a company shuts down, or moves on to another field, the rights to the name are often profitable. Westinghouse comes to mind as their are at least three firms who licence the trademark, and they have to keep the folks who used to be known as Westinghouse happy with the products and even coordinate the colour of the packages. Westinghouse closed and sold off all the manufacturing businesses long ago, and went with their strongest business "broadcasting". they bought the CBS network, and changed their name to CBS.

Dave Pritchard · Aug 24, 2009

Yeah, then what about the "Polaroid" batteries (AA cells mostly) that Wal-Mart sells? Are they instant batteries? Do they only work in Polaroid cameras? I really want to know!

Jeff Searust · Aug 24, 2009

Bob F. said:
Just goes to show you can tell digitographers anything and they will believe it.... "

Bob.

how many megapixels IS that paper anyway...

nickrapak · Aug 25, 2009

Dave Pritchard said:
Yeah, then what about the "Polaroid" batteries (AA cells mostly) that Wal-Mart sells? Are they instant batteries? Do they only work in Polaroid cameras? I really want to know!

I don't know, but I'm wondering whether the Polaroid-branded lightbulbs I saw at Ollie's Bargain outlet are a replacement for the M3 bulbs needed for my flash.

BradS · Aug 25, 2009

must be a really boring day in the film world.

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