Ilford Delta 25- Simon R Galley?

Aurelien · Feb 11, 2007

I have just noticed your message, and I would like to thank you.

Regarding Forte, i understand "More funnd will be welcome, but it's an APUG initiative".

Fotohuis · Feb 11, 2007

Regarding Forte, i understand "More funnd will be welcome, but it's an APUG initiative".

Exactly, so feel free to make an announcement and open a bank account by name (APUG) ?, for volantary donations. .

It's up to you as Forte lover to organize this and with the risk you have to make a lot of work for registration and eventually transfer back all donations in case Forte is liquidated or is going into a bank rupt case.

I will personally bring you as one of the first the good/bad message by the end of this week, let's say next week Sunday.

Have a nice week end.

Robert

Aurelien · Feb 11, 2007

I wish you good luck...

Bob F. · Feb 11, 2007

Fotohuis said:
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I am sure other companies would like to see Forte gone away because they are able to fill in their market share in the falling business

I hope to be very clear in this statement.

Best regards, cordialement,

Robert

I very much doubt any competitors are cheering the demise of Forte because the implications, combined with the closure of Agfaphoto, are that there is not enough market to support more than a couple of producers. This is not a situation to gladden the heart of any company that wishes to be in the business in the long term.

I suspect that the other existing companies take a rather more sophisticated view of the situation than that, and would much rather have a reasonable slice of a vibrant market than a larger slice of a diminishing one. Additionally, they will be aware that the more suppliers there are, the greater the combined reach they all have to the consumer and the more comfort the consumer has in traditional photography still being there in ten years time: an important consideration in keeping the faithful away from the evil temptations of the binary...

Good luck with your efforts!

Cheers, Bob.

Fotohuis · Feb 11, 2007

Thanks for your opion and support.

We have had positive reactions and support from the following companies:

Wolfgang Moersch (Hürth, Germany)
Bergger (Paris, France)
Foma Bohemia S.R.O. (Hradec Kralové, Czech Republic)

www.moersch-photochemie.de
www.bergger.com
www.foma.cz

and indirectly from:
Amaloco Photochemicals (Ommen, the Netherlands)
Phototec (Hatten, Germany)
FotoSkoda (Prague, Czech Republic)
Kentmere Benelux (Delft, the Netherlands)
Filmotec (Wolfen, Germany)
Rollei/Maco (Hamburg-Stapelfeld, Germany)
Heiland (Wetzlar, Germany)
Mr. Ralph Lambrecht (Leverkusen, Germany)

We are thanking everybody and also our suppliers and our export partners for their support so far.

Best regards,

Robert

braxus · Feb 12, 2007

Now to get this thread back on topic. Its almost the middle of February. I wonder if Simon and group at Ilford have had any discussion on Delta 25 yet?

acroell · Feb 12, 2007

Fotohuis said:
There is a small production change in the Rollei PAN 25 films up from December 2006. The effective DIN/E.I. has gone down from iso 32 to 25 now in favorite of LESS grain.

Because overall changes are very small most users will not have noticed this small modification. Overall the grain of this modified NP15 OrWo technology film is slightly better now than the Efke 25 film.
We have done some new sensiometric tests on the Rollei PAN 25 film. I think Filmotec has done an excellent job for Rollei/Maco .

Best regards,

Robert

Thanks for that information, Robert. Is there a way to recognize the old vs. the new Rollei Pan (numbers, expiration dates?). I am just testing the Rollei Pan 25 for different developments (zone system) and would like to know which one I am testing...

Arne

Fotohuis · Feb 12, 2007

You can take contact with the producer Filmotec or Rollei/Maco in Germany. They are able to tell you exactly the batchnumbers of the (very small) change. Without densitometer you will not notice it.

acroell · Feb 12, 2007

Fotohuis said:
You can take contact with the producer Filmotec or Rollei/Maco in Germany. They are able to tell you exactly the batchnumbers of the (very small) change. Without densitometer you will not notice it.

Thanks, Robert, I will contact them. And I do use a densitometer (actually the old Hauck Pentalux enlarging meter in its densitometer function, calibrated with a Stouffer step tablet)

Arne

dr5chrome · Feb 15, 2007

....we'll get on this bandwagon!

We would love to see a DELTA-25 !

dw

www.dr5.com

Chazzy · Feb 15, 2007

dr5chrome said:
....we'll get on this bandwagon!

We would love to see a DELTA-25 !

dw

www.dr5.com

I would like to see it in 220! I haven't beaten that particular drum for a while now.

Curt · Feb 15, 2007

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It will be great in 2x3 and 5x7 and 120 and 120 and 120 and 120. . .

braxus · Feb 25, 2007

Simon- February is almost over. Has Ilford made any decision on this film yet?

Curt · Feb 26, 2007

It takes time with all of the sheet film preparations to be made.

ajuk · Feb 26, 2007

braxus said:
Simon- February is almost over. Has Ilford made any decision on this film yet?

Dude leave it, he'll say when he knows.

Petzi · Feb 26, 2007

braxus said:
Simon- February is almost over. Has Ilford made any decision on this film yet?

I would not expect to see a Delta 25 product. The market for slow films for pictorial use is very small, and there are at least two regular ASA 25 speed b/w films currently available from other manufacturers.

On top of that, there are solutions based on "document" type film to be used with a special developer.

Aurelien · Mar 7, 2007

Simon, we are now in March. Has a decision been taken about production of delta 25?

ajuk · Mar 7, 2007

Your prompting him isn't going to make any difference, its more likely there first you will hear of it will be a press release.

Simon R Galley · Mar 9, 2007

Dear Ajuk et al,

Our Marketing Director is at PMA in Vegas at the moment, I will get the definitive statement out by the end of next week I hope

Simon. ILFORD photo / HARMAN technology Limited

matti · Mar 9, 2007

Sounds like a yes to me
/matti

Simon R Galley said:
Dear Ajuk et al,

Our Marketing Director is at PMA in Vegas at the moment, I will get the definitive statement out by the end of next week I hope

Simon. ILFORD photo / HARMAN technology Limited

wirehead · Mar 9, 2007

You know, now I think about it...

But I think the Delta 25 would be awfully awfully cool if it had an SFX-like extended red range.

I'm sure that the people who have yet to get over losing Tech Pan would love that.

David A. Goldfarb · Mar 9, 2007

Hey, I'm in Vegas visiting family, not sure if I'll make it over to PMA, but if I do, I'll see if I can scoop Simon Galley with Ilford news.

braxus · Mar 12, 2007

Yes keep us posted!

David A. Goldfarb · Mar 12, 2007

braxus said:
Yes keep us posted!

I posted some info in this thread--

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

dickie vaara · Mar 13, 2007

And I second the second!!

Richard
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