I thought Neopan 400 just came back

RattyMouse · Mar 29, 2013

I thought at the last Photokina the big film news was that Neopan 400 was back in production. This link says Neopan 400 is again gone......

http://tokyocamerastyle.com/post/46482166274/was-just-in-yodobashi-camera-in-shinjuku-and

pdeeh · Mar 29, 2013

This one is doing the rounds on Flickr and RFF, and probably elsewhere too.
I wish people would not insist on starting "the sky is falling" rumours based on "what some bloke in a shop said" ...

perkeleellinen · Mar 29, 2013

This is my favourite film.

For me the film was on the block when the 120 version got killed (can a film survive in only one format?), then I noticed it wasn't included in the packaging updates from Fuji.

I used to buy this film for £21 for 10 rolls. It now costs £50 for 10 rolls. I can't afford to hoard it. I hope it is a rumour, and on that hope I'll save my eulogy for another day...

Richard S. (rich815) · Mar 29, 2013

Here we go again.....why even repost this?

LiamG · Mar 29, 2013

This is absolutely the definition of hearsay.

IloveTLRs · Mar 29, 2013

TokyoCameraStyle is camera bling-bling site, not a mouth piece for Fujifilm, so take a blog entry with a grain of salt.

That being said, IF it was true it would not surprise me at all. Fujifilm should have removed "film" from its name a long time ago. Traitors.

RattyMouse · Mar 29, 2013

rich815 said:
Here we go again.....why even repost this?

What do you mean repost this? This blog post is ONE day old. Where was it posted the first time?

RattyMouse · Mar 29, 2013

IloveTLRs said:
TokyoCameraStyle is camera bling-bling site, not a mouth piece for Fujifilm, so take a blog entry with a grain of salt.

That being said, IF it was true it would not surprise me at all. Fujifilm should have removed "film" from its name a long time ago. Traitors.

As opposed to Kodak who has discontinued entire ranges of films in one shot (E-6). If Fujifilm is a traitor, what is Kodak then?

Richard S. (rich815) · Mar 29, 2013

I mean you're perpetuating it by posting here about it.

RattyMouse · Mar 29, 2013

rich815 said:
I mean you're perpetuating it by posting here about it.

I am asking a QUESTION. Christ, I dont think this forum could get any more uptight.

wblynch · Mar 30, 2013

It seems the pattern is, someone posts a rumor about the end of a film product.

Then a dozen people scream and chastise the messenger.

Then the product actually disappears.

The exact same pattern happened with Kodak plus-x.

I am inclined to believe the rumors since not one has turned out to be false.

If one likes Neopan 400 they would be wise to stock up.

RattyMouse · Mar 31, 2013

wblynch said:
It seems the pattern is, someone posts a rumor about the end of a film product.

Then a dozen people scream and chastise the messenger.

Then the product actually disappears.

The exact same pattern happened with Kodak plus-x.

I am inclined to believe the rumors since not one has turned out to be false.

If one likes Neopan 400 they would be wise to stock up.

I always wanted to try Neopan 400, but alas, I shoot 120 size film.

pentaxuser · Mar 31, 2013

wblynch said:
It seems the pattern is, someone posts a rumor about the end of a film product.

Then a dozen people scream and chastise the messenger.

Then the product actually disappears.

.

You might be right. It's just that in this case the rumour doesn't seem to be from any official/reliable source and even more strangely we had a very comprehensive thread on the re-introduction of this film very recently when a APUGer spoke with a Fuji spokesman at I think Photokina.

If Fuji has spent the money to re-launch and then within months decided not to continue then heaven help it as it would seem that its decision making is every bit as short-sighted and flawed as Kodak's was/is said to be

pentaxuser

wblynch · Mar 31, 2013

Maybe Fuji found a frozen master roll squirreled away that they used for their re-launch and now it's been used up?

The next few weeks will tell for sure.

pentaxuser · Mar 31, 2013

wblynch said:
Maybe Fuji found a frozen master roll squirreled away that they used for their re-launch and now it's been used up?

The next few weeks will tell for sure.

Now I am very worried about Fuji. It suddenly discovers a roll it didn't think it had( great inventory control ) and then makes up a story about a re-launch for Photokina.

Nothing is impossible but if your theory is correct it prompts the famous question: "Would you buy a second-hand car from a company like this?"

pentaxuser

Richard S. (rich815) · Mar 31, 2013

I have frozen a decent amount of Neopan 400 in 35mm and 120, and a number of bulk rolls of Neopan Presto too (and Super Presto). But this thread made me hesitate yesterday when I discovered a 120 roll of Neopan 400 in a camera bag I had not used in a while.....so I set that aside for another time and shot a roll of Agfapan 25 instead (yes, Agfapan 25 not APX25).

cmacd123 · Apr 1, 2013

I will beleive the rumor that Neopan 400 is revied when I get a roll with a Emusion number higher than 281xxx (I have seen 281001 to 281006) Since the 281 part is what appers in the edge print, I assume that is the bacth number and the other three digets are the master roll, (or something simalar).

The 281 film I have received now spans about a years worth of expiry dates. For comparison the Legacy Pro 400 was all 271xxx and 275xxx. That I still have a few rolls of in my fridge but plan to finish it off this summer before it gets too stale.

arealitystudios · Apr 3, 2013

Fuji could put all this to rest by actually communicating with their customers and putting out press releases about what is available and what isn't.

Like you know, every other company on earth.

I haven't purchased a single roll of Fuji film since they stopped Neopan 400 in 120 size. I wasn't so much angry they stopped production, I was and still am angry that they insisted to me over and over and over again that it was NOT discontinued. I would have stocked up on it but I had faith that multiple representatives from Fuji insisting they had no plans to stop production knew what they were talking about.

ath · Apr 4, 2013

Here's a reply from Fujifilm in Japan.
Apparently the 24exp is discontinued while the 36exp will go on.

railwayman3 · Apr 4, 2013

ath said:
Here's a reply from Fujifilm in Japan.
Apparently the 24exp is discontinued while the 36exp will go on.

But is that the situation just in Japan...how about the rest of the world (the poster on RFF is based in Japan, and Fuji's reply is in Japanese)?

I wonder why we bother with companies which fail to communicate clearly, when we have Ilford/Harman (and Adox).

Richard S. (rich815) · Apr 4, 2013

railwayman3 said:
I wonder why we bother with companies which fail to communicate clearly, when we have Ilford/Harman (and Adox).

Two reasons:

1. Acros
2. Neopan 400

benjiboy · Apr 4, 2013

There's plenty of Fuji Neopan 400 available in the U.K, I think that Fuji has different policy for different pats of the World for what they export to them, this company in the U.K have it in stock in 35mm and will ship internationally http://www.speedgraphic.co.uk/delivery/354_i.html

Richard S. (rich815) · Apr 4, 2013

You edited out that they had 120! ;-)

benjiboy · Apr 4, 2013

rich815 said:
You edited out that they had 120! ;-)

Yes I did, I re- checked and they did'nt.

IloveTLRs · Apr 4, 2013

arealitystudios said:
I haven't purchased a single roll of Fuji film since they stopped Neopan 400 in 120 size.

I washed my hands of Fuji when they stopped Neopan SS. They said 24exp was done, but 36exp would keep going. Surprise! 36exp is also now done. Plus they nuked most of their slide films and instant peel-apart.

But what should I expect from a costmetics and digital camera company?

I thought Neopan 400 just came back

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