I spotted some "Vibe 400" Black and white film. where does it fit into the matrix?

I was doing my semi-annual film order from B&H this week, when I noticed that they had a B&W film Called Vibe Photo 400. I tossed a couple of rolls on my order, and I am wondering what when where and How this fits in.

film came in a cardboard box, with the branding in metalic foilhot stamping. Box is mostly in english, But has some claims on both sides in French. apperently it provides very clear quality of impressions, and clarity and rich colour. (neet trick for Black and white film)
Inside the box, their is a plastic film can that loks simalar to those used by Fuji. in the can is a plastic Snap together cassette like those used by CineStyle, or Flic Film. the film leader looks like a generic B&W film. (not dark like the GR3 400 or ORWO N75) it has KS perforations and the short leader is cut in a way that the cuts bisect the perforations.

the box has a printed expiry date of 2024.12 and say the film is made in the EU, although the box does not name any distributor, or indicate where it is assembled. Cassette does not have DX code. Box has a bar code of 8 56960 00003 7. The cassette itself is labeled with a Plastic label and has a bar code of 016041

inside the box it gives a development time of 8 minutes in HC 110-B, D76 or ID11 Stock, and Xtol.

It might be a while beofre I get to play with this further, But would be curious what other folks know about it?

Vibe 400 is Fomapan 400 at twice the price. Won’t fall for that one again.

"Where does it fit in the Matrix?"
It depends on whether you take the blue pill, or the red pill?

More seriously, although I ask this with trepidation: is there an ISO speed quoted?
And does it appear to be coated on acetate, or is it PET?

MattKing said:

"Where does it fit in the Matrix?"
It depends on whether you take the blue pill, or the red pill?

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Now this really caught my funny bone................perfect.

Google says that you bought a color film made by Fuji, which explains the color and clarity writing, and its C41 process. However, B&H says you bought a black and white film. Very confusing!

Looks like the color version is Fuji loads make for disposable cameras, while the black and white is likely Foma, but could be make by Orwa, old stock movie film.

the box is indeed like the one on the right in Don Heisz's Picture. The decription in french is on the top surface of the box.

the film does have KS perfs, while Movie Negative, except in the former soviet Union would normally have BH perfs. This is likly a product made by a very small company, and obviously using bought in film.

to answer Matt's Question, it does look like grey base Acetate film, but it is of course hard to tell from just the leader, and I don't want to pull out a lot of film in case it does have actual edge printing.

A quick way to spot a B&W film made by Foma, is to look for the leader tongue with the notch in it.

If someone bought a finished roll then cut and packaged, it would not have the notch.

foc said:

A quick way to spot a B&W film made by Foma, is to look for the leader tongue with the notch in it.

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yes, that artifact is found on film FINISHED on the equipment used by Foma. but foma coated film might be finished by someone else. (I have gone through a 100 ft of Foma made bulk film myself a while ago, and the leader of the rolls I loaded did not look like that.