How would you print Foma Fomapan R100 B&W Reversal Film?

amellice · Mar 12, 2015

What chems and paper you could use to print this film?

R.Gould · Mar 12, 2015

I wouldn't, I would just use normal fomapan, but if I had to try I would either make a print onto RC paper which would produce a negative, then contact print the resulting negative onto another sheet of paper,chemicals would be standard b/w chemicals

Rick A · Mar 12, 2015

I used to shoot Scala as a negative, I'm sure you could experiment with this film as a negative. I would bracket a couple of stops each way of box speed, do first development then stop and fix, skipping the rest of the reversal procedure. It should be able to be printed on any paper as any other negative would.

From Foma spec sheet:
Speed
The film has a nominal speed rating of ISO 100/21o when processed in R-100
Process. Other processes can cause deviations from the nominal film speed. It is,
therefore, recommended that the real film speed be checked by trial tests in such
cases.

amellice · Mar 12, 2015

alright I just wanted to make sure that there's not direct positive paper/chems for this one out of the box.

railwayman3 · Mar 12, 2015

I used to rephotograph colour slides (and the occasional B&W slide) onto B&W negative film if I needed a print. It sometimes required a little experimentation with film and developing to get the most suitable contrast of the neg for the best print, but not difficult at all.

But nowdays I'd use negative film if prints are the objective. (Or, TBH, if I really need a print from a slide, I just scan it. )

Rick A · Mar 12, 2015

It would be nice if this was in current production.

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/g27/g27.pdf

MartinP · Mar 12, 2015

Do you mean that you have the processed film already, with a positive image on it? Or that you have unexposed R100 and are thinking of ways to get a standard neg/print result using it?

The reversal kit for processing the film is readily available (in Europe at least).

EDIT: Also available is reversal black-and-white print material. It is high-gloss polyester, rather than paper like the previous Ilford product, and has a high contrast but it may be usable for you.

It would also be possible to print from an internegative, in the same way one would go from a colour-slide to a black-and-white print.

pdeeh · Mar 12, 2015

Rick A said:
It would be nice if this was in currant production.

Surely there's no raisin?

MartinP · Mar 12, 2015

Also no reason, within the context of the OP's question. Panalure was a panchromatic black-and-white paper, ideal for making black-and-white enlargements from colour negatives. The OP has a black-and-white positive material to print from, or to process to b+w neg.

Interestingly, Harman Technologies do make a range of panchromatic black-and-white RC and Fibre papers in their digital range, for example this. They are intended for use in digital enlargers, such as Lambda or Lightjet, using various multi coloured light sources.

amellice · Mar 12, 2015

MartinP said:
Do you mean that you have the processed film already, with a positive image on it? Or that you have unexposed R100 and are thinking of ways to get a standard neg/print result using it?

The reversal kit for processing the film is readily available (in Europe at least).

EDIT: Also available is reversal black-and-white print material. It is high-gloss polyester, rather than paper like the previous Ilford product, and has a high contrast but it may be usable for you.

It would also be possible to print from an internegative, in the same way one would go from a colour-slide to a black-and-white print.

The film developing kit R-100 is available from freestyle what I was looking for is paper/chems to print the film in normal fashion, not through inter-negs, contact or anything like that.

SMBooth · Mar 12, 2015

You could try enlarging on to Harman Direct Positive Paper.

Rick A · Mar 12, 2015

pdeeh said:
Surely there's no raisin?

where's the "flip the bird at the spelling police" button

pdeeh · Mar 12, 2015

Where's the "where's your sense of humour?" button?

Rick A · Mar 12, 2015

cmacd123 · Mar 12, 2015

It would be theoretically possible to reversal Process B&W paper.

pdeeh · Mar 12, 2015

Oh its more than theoretically possible, it's perfectly practical to do so.
I've experimented a bit with it.
There's a few threads on it here if anyone wants to give it a go

amellice · Mar 12, 2015

pdeeh said:
Oh its more than theoretically possible, it's perfectly practical to do so.
I've experimented a bit with it.
There's a few threads on it here if anyone wants to give it a go

Thanks guys I know about reversal process, I was just wondering if it can be done rightaway

pdeeh · Mar 13, 2015

What do you mean by "rightaway"?

MartinP · Mar 13, 2015

The Harman paper is no longer made as the critical materials supplier went out of business.

There is another product which prints black-and-white reversal, as I mentioned above in post-7. The stuff is not on a paper base but is coated on a very high gloss plastic, similar to that which was once used for Ilfochrome and Cibachrome. A link to a sales and information page is HERE. It may be that initially you will have high-contrast results using this material, but perhaps flashing can lighten up some of the shadows -- lots of testing needed.

flavio81 · Mar 13, 2015

MartinP said:
The Harman paper is no longer made as the critical materials supplier went out of business.

There is another product which prints black-and-white reversal, as I mentioned above in post-7. The stuff is not on a paper base but is coated on a very high gloss plastic, similar to that which was once used for Ilfochrome and Cibachrome. A link to a sales and information page is HERE. It may be that initially you will have high-contrast results using this material, but perhaps flashing can lighten up some of the shadows -- lots of testing needed.

This looks like the best option.

The other possibility might be to reversal-process the (normal) enlarging paper. It should be possible.

flavio81 · Mar 13, 2015

amellice said:
Thanks guys I know about reversal process, I was just wondering if it can be done rightaway

It should be possible to do it with regular enlarging paper; the difference would be in development, usually:

1) using a different developer

2) using a bleach (which usually requires preparing it yourself)

3) re-exposing the paper to achieve the reversal

flavio81 · Mar 13, 2015

PS

some internal links on reversal processing the paper:

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amellice · Mar 13, 2015

pdeeh said:
What do you mean by "rightaway"?

no reversal process

Ricardo Miranda · Mar 14, 2015

amellice said:
no reversal process

I'm a little confused here:

1- Do you mean printing F100R after developing it as a positive, but without using another reversal process? Or...

2- Do you want to process the film as negative so you can do normal prints afterwards?

If it is the second, why don't you just use normal Fomapan 100? It is a beautiful film.

amellice · Mar 14, 2015

Ricardo Miranda said:
I'm a little confused here:

1- Do you mean printing F100R after developing it as a positive, but without using another reversal process? Or...

2- Do you want to process the film as negative so you can do normal prints afterwards?

If it is the second, why don't you just use normal Fomapan 100? It is a beautiful film.

the first option, print from positive film to positive paper. like printing color slides on ilfochrome or kodak ektachrome paper

How would you print Foma Fomapan R100 B&W Reversal Film?

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