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ericdan

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What method do you use to organize your developed film?

I have everything developed in strips, nothing mounted.
Each roll goes into one sleeve that is sequentially numbered and dated.
I use the date I got the film developed instead of when it was shot.
 

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Each roll of film or sheet film goes in to PrintFile pages lable YYYY-Roll.sheet-number with subject, month and year. Color 35mm can only come from on camera. Black & white 35mm can only come from another camera. Panorama [35mm] can only come from a third camera. All 120 film comes from either of the Hasselblads. 4"x5" gets labeled with which camera was used.
 
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I place all mine in neg sleeves and label each sleeve with date shot, location and how developed (dev, dilution, temp and time). I then have several files labeled as Unprinted Negs, Printed Negs and Rejects. Its not perfect but just about works for me.
 

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Mine all go in Print Sleeves and are kept in closed "workbox" kind of binders (originally from Print Sleeve but now I buy generic ones from Yodobashi) - I like them because they are good at keeping the dust out. I started using them in the past when I was using public darkrooms and needed to carry extra bits like pencils and dodging tools. In the past I kept negs according to size and type (one for 35mm, one for infrared, one for 120 film) but now I keep everything in order according to date shot. The notable exception is what to do with all the slide film I've shot. Those chromes are kept in the sleeves I got from the shop, but I haven't found a way to organise them properly. So at the moment they are hanging out in a separate binder, but in a very haphazard way.

However, I mostly shoot B&W, and for that, my numbering system is a little different. Since I usually shoot large batches of film when I travel I use a "code" before each number. For example, my trip to Burma, Thailand, and Bhutan has films labelled as BTB1, BTB2, etc. My European Cemeteries trip will be EC1, EC2, etc. Films that are shot here and there do not have a code, I just order them according to date shot.

The white strip on the files have number code (opt), camera/filter used, film/iso shot at, developer/dilution/time/temp, location/date. I keep an Excel file with all that information too, it might contain more info, such as notes or comments on the developing or exposing. The Excel file also contains info about my slides, as I do have that info listed on the sleeves.
 
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4x5 negatives in PrintFile poly pages that hold four negatives per page. These go into closed, dust-proof binders (also PrintFile or Beseler or the like) along with the exposure records for each negative (four bound in the rings next to each page). My filmholders are numbered 1-100 and the negatives go in the binders in (roughly) numerical order. Each binder has a number along with the dates of the negatives contained therein (e.g., #15; Fall 2005-Spring 2006). I've got 35 or so binders now sitting in storage.

When I print a negative, it gets a printing record. The negatives are designated by binder#/negative# (e.g., 15/43). Even though there may be two negatives #43 in one binder, the subject matter is always different enough to find the right neg for reprints.

My work usually goes in segments, one extended batch of negatives for a trip to the SW, another for my spring shooting in Vienna, another for my winter trip to Death Valley, etc., etc. I just put all these in the binder chronologically as described. No problems so far, but then again, 200 or so negatives a year is a full year for me. I find I'm walking more and shooting less these days; no use doing something I've already done (better)...

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Does nobody three-hole punch their contact sheets and bind them with the neg sleeves? There are times I want to see the contacts...
 

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I learned early on no matter how they are stored if you cannot find them it's not a good system. I made up an Excel file for sorting. So no matter the method of storage, and identifying them you need a quick retrieval method too.

I use the Print File poly pages and store them all in hanging Pendaflex racks in a file cabinet kept in a home office closet. I use SlidePro label software for making up the Avery stickers. Make sure you use a category number system leaves plenty of expansion. Each of my categories are numbered starting at 0000 leaving it to top out at 9999. Obviously I'll never reach the top in any given category, but will never run out of it either.
 

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My 35mm negatives are filed in negative wallets no longer available available from printfile.com. The wallets are packed tightly in 250 sheet 8x10 paper boxes. Unlike most 35mm negative files, since the negatives are stored facing front-to-front and back-to-back, they become flat. The files are numbered consecutively. Any single frame can be identified by the four digit roll number and the frame number. This system, without the computer file, has served well for over 40 years. A brief index of each wallet in a computer file can be searched with a word search.
 

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Does nobody three-hole punch their contact sheets and bind them with the neg sleeves? There are times I want to see the contacts...

PrintFile has sheets that have 3 hole punches and sheets that are not punched. If you wan to keep them in a binder, then be careful which package you grab in the store. Do not bother to ask me how I found this out.

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I file each roll in an appropriately sized negative sleeve, each sheet in an Office Depot sheet holder for 8 1/2x11 pages. I use the thinnest ones as they are cheapest and as far as I can tell are made of the same material as the much more expensive sleeves made for negatives. Each roll or sheet goes in a file folder numbered with the year, then consecutive numbers. I include any notes on how I shot or how I print. I store the negatives in an old, very heavy filing cabinet. I started doing this after I saw how much the old file cabinets protected documents in an office building fire. I don't know if the new, sheet metal filing cabinets offer protection or not.

For years now, I've scanned my negatives rather than do a contact sheet or other proof. I've looked for some kind of photo organizing software where I can search keywords and find my negatives. Lightroom would have worked, but I refuse to go along with Adobe's confiscatory pricing scheme. Adobe says the older versions won't work on Windows 10. Whether that's true or not is debated. I looked at Capture One Media Pro, which would have worked, except they say they don't know if they will make a Win10 compatible version. If they won't make such a version, Media Pro will be orphaned, and I don't want to get into that. This is all much more complicated than it should be.
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I store the negatives in PrintFile sleeves which bear the date of shooting/processing, the developer used, and other perhaps useful information. The sleeves are stored in ring boxes in chronological order.

I scan negatives and slides into Lightroom - I also shoot digital - Lightroom lets me assign "tags" or subject headings to each image. Each image is assigned a number by Lightroom; I choose the prefix for the number which is assigned. The inclusive numbers assigned to a roll of film are entered on the sleeve.

With Lightroom I can view a given negative and decide whether or not to print it, if I wish I can print a "contact" sheet. The subject headings let me find quickly images sorted by subject or date shot, for which the negatives are easily found.

The digitized images are backed up to the cloud with BackBlaze, also onto alternating 1.5T drives in drawers. Should - perish the thought! - the negatives are destroyed I'll have something....

Now "all" I have to do is to finish scanning in more than fifty years of negatives and slides.... Sadly for some reason I didn't always note the date of shooting or processing all the images, so I have to make a guess based on the people in the pictures, or cars, or just guessing. :whistling:
 

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Being retired, with possibly a bit of OCD, and not shooting massive amounts of film, I use Printfile pages in binders separated by format. Within the binders, most recent is on top, with some index tabs to separate years, and there are now multiple volumes in 120 and 35mm. The file sheets get a number aaa-nnn where the aaa is a code for the camera used and the nnn is a roll number through that camera. On the sheet header I also put the date, film, and a few clues to the subject.

But then there's the Excel file! I create a page for each film, with the tab identified by that aaa-nnn code and the page is laid out to have a longer description, film type, and development used. In addition to that there is a line for each frame to include description, shutter speed, f-stop, filter, and a short note if needed. On the cameras with interchangeable lenses I will pop in a blank line and name the lens whenever it changes during the course of a roll. (That doesn't happen much or I'd probably have a column for "Lens.")

Then the fun starts. I'm not sure when it became available in Excel, but at least by 2007 you can set up hot links, just like the web. So I have a master index page with links to index pages that list by subject or by film. The subject list is laid out by year and by camera (for a few of the heavily used ones, the rest "Misc"). At each of those entries there is a clickable link that goes to the page for that roll. There is also a couple of indexes to track use of my heavily used films. which have links to pages where those films were used and some counting for monitoring of inventory. The pages for each roll have links back to the master, subject, and film indexes -- it ju-u-s-st like web surfing! :cool:

It all sounds more involved and complicated than it actually is; once the basic formats are set up you just duplicate a page, fill it in, and add a couple of links to the index. All after that said, I admit that sometimes I don't get too obsessive about exposure data, depending on what I'm doing. (On "serious" outings I use a voice recorder to take field notes.)

And yes, at least the 120 stuff, I usually scan on my flat bed and maintain some moderate resolution image files archived in folders using the yyy_mm_dd_aaa_nnn (date and roll) naming sequence. I find that useful as a first pass to identify things that are worth further attention -- others may not. :D

I have delusions of going back in time and putting all my negatives at least into binders and recoring the rolls in the subject index portions of the Excel file. But at the current rate I'll probably never get there. I discovered a while back that the stamped info on the back of many color prints from the 1970s, 80s, and 90s apparently doesn't include any date info, just printing exposure adjustments, so I may never quite reconstruct that level of detail (as if it were truly necessary! :whistling: )

(OMG - a book! Well, you asked ....)
 

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Does nobody three-hole punch their contact sheets and bind them with the neg sleeves? There are times I want to see the contacts...

I use the PrintFile sleeves that allow the contact sheets to be included with the negatives, like these.
 

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Did anyone else struggle to find a folder that fits the sleeves (strips of 5 frames)? I just have mine stacked in a document box as I don't have that many yet but I couldn't work out how folders would suit. Either the negs stick out the long edge or the pages will hang off the rings potentially warping the negs.
 
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I have a very fast scanner. So I have scans of all my film in Lightroom where I keep metadata with them.
Numbering and keywords in Lightroom match what I write on my sleeves.

I believe Lightroom's catalog is just a text file based database and should still be usable if Lightroom should go away.


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Lightroom would have worked, but I refuse to go along with Adobe's confiscatory pricing scheme. Adobe says the older versions won't work on Windows 10. Whether that's true or not is debated.
juan

I'm using LR 5.7.1 on Windows 10 without an issues, fyi.
 

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What method do you use to organize your developed film?

I have everything developed in strips, nothing mounted.
Each roll goes into one sleeve that is sequentially numbered and dated.
I use the date I got the film developed instead of when it was shot.

I put them into Print File sleeves and write the ISO date on them.Then ,they go into regular office binders:smile:
 
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