How to Make Flexicolor Developer from the 20 Liter Package?

RedSun · May 13, 2014

I have the Kodak Flexicolor 20-liter package, Cat: 366 7805. It can be found at:
http://www.uniquephoto.com/product/kodak-c-41-entwickler-flxclr-devr-rplr-3667805/

It only has instruction to make entire 20-liter. How do I know the sizes of each of the 3 bottles. So I can make 2 liter replenisher?
I could not find any instruction from Kodak website.

Thx.

wildbill · May 13, 2014

Divide each bottle's contents by 10.

RedSun · May 13, 2014

wildbill said:
Divide each bottle's contents by 10.

I do not know the size of each content

RedSun · May 13, 2014

I found it:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

wildbill · May 13, 2014

RedSun said:
I do not know the size of each content

Do you have graduates? Pour each bottle in.

RedSun · May 13, 2014

wildbill said:
Do you have graduates? Pour each bottle in.

This is a bad idea...

AgX · May 13, 2014

RedSun · May 13, 2014

If you plan to use all the concentrate in a couple of months, then it is not a big deal. But if you plan to keep it as long as you can, then do not subject the concentrate to any stress. Be it oxidation or contamination. As far as I know, some part of the chemical (part C) can go bad rather quickly...

AgX · May 13, 2014

Whether you open a bottle of concentrate and pour out a bit, or pour all into a graduate and pour it back a moment later won't make a difference. For two moments the surface area would about double the one related to simple pouring out.

RedSun · May 13, 2014

Get it.

Since some folks have already figured it out, it is better just to search or ask. I have a lot old chemicals and some of that is already outdated, so I'm careful with the new chemicals now....

Athiril · May 13, 2014

Cant find the direct PDF somehow, but here is the Kodak datasheet for mixing smaller amounts than the package size
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Tom Kershaw · May 14, 2014

Athiril said:
Cant find the direct PDF somehow, but here is the Kodak datasheet for mixing smaller amounts than the package size
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That pdf doesn't give details about the 366 7805 kit. I made up the whole 20 litres and now have the remaining solution after processing a large batch of film in capped bottles.

Tom

kb3lms · May 14, 2014

I follow the CIS-49 document these days but have followed directions various people have posted online as well as just dividing up the contents. Curiously, CIS-49 doesn't give quite the same measurements. Regardless, good results were obtained any way. It appears the formula is surprisingly forgiving.

RedSun · May 14, 2014

I believe the latest CIS49 was dated 2004.... 10 years ago.

MattKing · May 15, 2014

RedSun said:
I believe the latest CIS49 was dated 2004.... 10 years ago.

Most recent I can find: November 2009: http://125px.com/docs/techpubs/kodak/cis49-2009_12.pdf

Terry Christian · May 15, 2014

I forgot where I found this, otherwise I'd give credit where credit is due. A while back, I was looking for how to split up the bulk Kodak C-41 chemicals, and came across this table. I've been using it and it works. My bleach replenisher didn't have a part A and part B, so I just combined the volumes.

Splitting Kodak C-41 Chemicals
To prepare Working Strength directly from Concentrate Solutions 1 Liter from 1-5 gal Concentrates

To make 1 Liter:

DEVELOPER
Start w/water 700 mL
While stirring, add Part A 64.5 mL
While stirring, add Part B 10.75 mL
While stirring, add Part C 10.08 mL
Add 1st Dev Starter 14 mL
Add water 200.67 mL

BLEACH
Start w/water 347 mL
Add bleach starter 50 mL
Start with bleach replenisher Part A 174 mL
Start with bleach replenisher Part B 348 mL
Add water 81 mL

FIXER
Start w/water 700 mL
While stirring, add concentrate 200 mL
Add water 100 mL

FINAL RINSE
Start w/water 800 mL
While stirring, add concentrate 9.0 mL
Add water 191 mL

EdSawyer · May 16, 2014

I will try to post what I have on 366 7805 tonight or this weekend.

rtolber · Jun 28, 2015

Any update on 3667805 mixing info? Is the info that Terry posted still correct for this 20L kit?

mtjade2007 · Jul 1, 2015

I do not see anyone mentioned it. The 20 liter package shown on the web is a 20 liter replenisher. You will need a C-41 starter as well. Without the starter the juice will not work properly. First of all it will not be diluted enough and 2ndly it will not reproduce color correctly. C-41 starter is cheap. It can be found easily from places that sell C-41 chemicals.

Photo Engineer · Jul 1, 2015

AgX said:
Whether you open a bottle of concentrate and pour out a bit, or pour all into a graduate and pour it back a moment later won't make a difference. For two moments the surface area would about double the one related to simple pouring out.

This is a very very bad idea.

This component is developing agent packed under Sulfur Dioxide and pouring the solution all out will let more of the gas escape than pouring out just a small amount.

PE

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