as the title suggests, I'm missing the file type .dng in the "Save as...' menu.How does smeone export an image file in the dog-format after editing in Photoshop?
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
How to export .dng from Photoshop?
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that's what I'm afraid of but, I think it's poor that Adobe is pushing dog even though their own software can't save it that way.
Ralph IIRC it’s Adobe’s RAW converters that can do what you ask, not PS itself, so it’s normally done from LR or Bridge.
The only advantage I see is that the original file from the camera (jpg or whatever) can be saved ‘inside’ a DNG from LR along with it’s sidecar file that tells the raw converter what edits to apply.
That is only important whe using a raw converter to view and edit ‘later’.
The only advantage I see is that the original file from the camera (jpg or whatever) can be saved ‘inside’ a DNG from LR along with it’s sidecar file that tells the raw converter what edits to apply.
That is only important whe using a raw converter to view and edit ‘later’.
Don't know why you would want to do it, but you can save as a flattened tiff file in Photoshop first and then open it in Camera Raw from Bridge (you have to enable it in Camera Raw Preferences) and then save it in Camera Raw as a .dng file.
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hi ralph, i just bit the bullet as you suggested and am using PS on my machine now,
thanks for pushing me towards the light
thanks for pushing me towards the light
Editing in RAW does not actually edit the ‘original’ or ‘baseline’ image data, instead the ‘edits are kept in a sidecar ‘file’ inside the DNG.
The “baseline file’ can be raw data or a jpeg or a tiff; doesn’t matter. The sidecar file provides the instructions for the raw converter to get to the ‘edited version.
It’s an interesting way of working but IMO best suited to commercial stuff.
Yeah. But why would you want to go to Photoshop and save as a .dng was my question. Once you are in Photoshop your raw file is already cooked, so to say. Converting it back to raw is not the same thing. The only reason I can think of is to be able to use something like Camera Raw, although you can do that with any jpg or tiff file already.
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You can from Lightroom but not from Photoshop for some reason.???
Photoshop is like a boiling soup. Once you throw your raw files in it, they get cooked. There is no way to save them back as a raw file. Lightroom and Camera Raw are like salad bowls. There all your file stay in raw. Frankly, I still do not understand what you are trying to do.
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PS and LR at their core work very differently.
In LR, the norm is that the original image data isn't edited, instead the 'edits' are held in a sidecar file that simply describes to LR how to change the original file. This mode of work is common to all RAW software packages.
In PS the original file is not maintained, the original file is modified and there is no sidecar file.
DNG, and NEF, and other RAW formats contain both the original image and the sidecar file, it looks like a single file from the outside, but it's more complicated than that.
Save it as a .bmp. That’s raw, and uncompressed. It’s not the same as camera raw, but it’s just about as good. The camera raw files have to be converted for your computer to make use of them. Or better yet, save it as a .tiff. That’ll save a bit of space and you won’t lose any quality.
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Photoshop is a destructive editor. Lightroom is non destructive editor
PS is destructive in the same sense as sculpture work, raw materials (the original files 'mined' from the real world) are used to create something else.
LR is non-destructive in the sense that mud is slapped on the outside of a sculpture, you can take the mud off if you want to go back to the original.
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Yes, latest Mac OS and no time to spend two hours on the phone to wait for Adobe tech support. The point its Adobe is pushing a file format, which they don't fully support themselves!
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Your point?
you are trying to use a nondestructive file in a destructive editor.
that's how i understand it anyway
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my pleasure; I firmly believe that Photoshop is hard to beat.hi ralph, i just bit the bullet as you suggested and am using PS on my machine now,
thanks for pushing me towards the light
Of course PS can be used as a non- destructive editor by using layers.
Yes PS can, the type of file you use determines whether or not you can use layers though.
A raw file doesn’t support layers, nor does jpg. Programs like LR can open a jpg but don’t actually edit the jpg, instead they use sidecar data. LR and the raw converter in PS use sidecar data as a prescription to make a special set of glasses that you see the jpg through. Each version of the jpg that is saved is simply another sidecar file with a link to the original jpg, not another jpg. Typically the only time LR saves a new jpg is when it is exported out of LR.
A jpg or raw file can be used ‘inside’a PSD or PSB file, say as a smart object, but essentially the smart object (jpg or raw file) becomes just another layer in the PS environ.
When an image is edited then saved as jpg from PS though, that ‘new’ jpg is completely flattened. If that save is is done to/over/replacing the original jpg it is destructive.
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is "photoshop raw" the same as .dng ?
i ask because if you have your file open and go to save as ...
it is in the pull down menu in the middle of the list.
i unfortunately and not saavy enough to know the difference
if it isn't the same ! and typically save things as tiff files, unless they
are squashed small for web-upload...
hope you got your problem figured out !
is "photoshop raw" the same as .dng ?
i ask because if you have your file open and go to save as ...
it is in the pull down menu in the middle of the list.
i unfortunately and not saavy enough to know the difference
if it isn't the same ! and typically save things as tiff files, unless they
are squashed small for web-upload...
hope you got your problem figured out !
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