Thanks so much Andrew, I’ll go with 12 minutes.I've developed it in D-23 1+1 at EI 1000 for 11 minutes. I'd probably do 12 minutes at 1600. 20C. Agitation constant for first 30seconds, followed by 3seconds every minutes.
Thanks so much Andrew, I’ll go with 12 minutes.
Yes +1. I'd be keen to see how it goes as well.My pleasure! Do let us know how it turned out with a few pics, eh!
Don't use something weak. It really needs to be stock strength D-76/ Microphen/ Xtol etc. You need the activity (and solvency) to get the (rather clever) emulsions to do their job - and they'll be plenty sharp. .
I'm quite happy with the negs. My friend admitted to being a bit drunk when he took the photos so exposure is all over the place but this is probably the best one. Nice highlights which could have easily blown out and decent shadow detail. This is a quick scan, will be interesting to see how they print. Thanks again Andrew.My pleasure! Do let us know how it turned out with a few pics, eh!
I can only guess that the image I scanned of the two ladies was given much more exposure (effectively rated at 400 perhaps) than the 1600 I gave my film. That's the only conclusion I can come to based on the decent shadow detail in that image. The two films were developed identically. I would be interested in finding out how people are exposing and developing their film to produce good negs in daylight conditions.So Markbau your negs at the same speed as your friend's and in the same developer and time came out OK -ish but your film was way underdeveloped. It suggests that something was in fact different on the two occasions. Is there any detail in the shadows on the neg in his shot of the 2 ladies. It is difficult to judge from a scan and exposure-wise it looks as if the film was having to cope with a massive range of light
I am not sure that from what I see D3200 at 1600 in D23 is necessarily a bad combo although it may be that diluted 1+1 is pushing its boundaries a bit
If Andrew O'Neill is willing to show us his negs/prints that may tell us more about the danger of using it at 1600
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I wish I had read this thread last week, before I developed my Ilford 3200 (shot at 1600)*. Negs are underdeveloped, even though I added 15% more time to the development. Plus the film looks fogged (at least the base fog is stronger than most films, don't know if that's normal). I don't shoot this film much, but would like to get a handle on it for when I really need the extra push. That said, I seem to have better luck pushing Tri-X or HP5+ to 1600 than using this at 1600. I guess I need to do a proper test of all three in different lighting conditions and different developers to see what really works best.
*Shout out to @Andrew O'Neill, I was shooting at the Miike mine in Omuta (inspired by your work there). I didn't have a tripod with me (although I think it would have been allowed) so was pushing all of my films in the interiors while there. I just now need to organize my darkroom so I can get some printing done, even if it's just work prints for now.
I can only guess that the image I scanned of the two ladies was given much more exposure (effectively rated at 400 perhaps) than the 1600 I gave my film. That's the only conclusion I can come to based on the decent shadow detail in that image. The two films were developed identically. I would be interested in finding out how people are exposing and developing their film to produce good negs in daylight conditions.
Accounting for the massive underdevelopment I think this film is at best an EI 800 film but it's really hard to guess given how underdeveloped it is. Then again, maybe Delta 3200 and D23 1:1 are just a bad combo.
I was at Manda and I also went to the Miyanohara pit as well, though not nearly as big or interesting. I had a car for 2 weeks as I explored Kyushu (all 7 prefectures) so that definitely helped me see more things than I could have by public transportation. The only place I didn't get to was Ikeshima, due to rainy weather and gale force winds on the 2 days I had allocated for a possible trip there. Ah well, next time.I can NOT wait to see your images! Were you at Manda? That's the main one, near the museum. How did you get around? I know Omuta like the back of my hand. Wish I could have shown you around...
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