Thanks for the reply! Yeah that helps and is what I was looking for. Is there a name for this particular type of reaction or would it just be classified as "oxidation?"
Out of curiosity I tried looking up how Platinum, Palladium, and gold toning Kallitypes (and other similar processes) work. I wasn't able to find much. I found a few references stating that "more noble metals will replaces less noble metals" in the print during toning, but nothing that seems to state how that works. I know that these metals don't form compounds with metallic silver like sulfur and selenium will. Some literature states that gold will "plate" the silver crystals in silver gelatin prints so how is it different when gold toning a Kallitype? Is this one of those things where it isn't well understood how this works?
Is there a name for this particular type of reaction
As far as "which should be used first", I've seen references to gold toners for platinum prints, which implies that gold should be done before platinum. Presumably that applies to palladium as well.
I'm seeing a few vague referencing online about gold toning platinum/palladium prints. So that is possible? If so I think that proves that the information in the book is incorrect, yes?
Both of these posts are correct.
The reason, as one might suspect, is in the details of the redox chemistry.
The propensity to donate or accept electrons is measured by the 'standard electrode potential' which is typically measured in volts.
Here are the values for the metals in question
Au -- 1.5
Pt -- 1.19
Pd -- 0.92
Ag -- 0.80
A metal with a higher potential can be used to replace one with a lower potential.
Thus, gold (Au) can be used to tone prints made with any of the other metals under discussion.
Furthermore, if one gold tones a print already toned with platinum (Pt) or palladium (Pd) the gold will replace the Pt/Pd thereby 'undoing' the first toning.
With split toning the devil is in the details, one needs to pay careful attention to both the concentration of the toners, the time prints stay in the toning bath and the temperature if one wants to have reasonably consistent split toning.
Split toning results will depend on the extent of gold toning since the subsequent toning with Pt or Pd will depend on how much residual silver is present after the gold toning.
I may have this backwards but I believe that gold tones from the bottom (shadows) up and platinum from the top down. Here is a kallitype that I split-toned with gold and platinum:
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I've never found a satisfactory theoretical explanation for this, nor have I been able to demonstrate it. Toners affect the metallic image. They don't care at what part of the curve that metal happens to be.gold tones from the bottom (shadows) up and platinum from the top down.
This is my understanding as well. All areas are effected equally, but depending on the toner (or bleach) certain areas will show color change before others due to the density thus giving the illusion that highlights or shadows are affected first.I've never found a satisfactory theoretical explanation for this, nor have I been able to demonstrate it. Toners affect the metallic image. They don't care at what part of the curve that metal happens to be.
I think what likely happens is that with some toners, we more easily see the change in hue in the highlights, while with other hues, the shadow changes are more apparent at first. This phenomenon then might have found its way into common parlance, confusing the subjective impression with a physical/chemical mechanism. I think the two should not be confused, especially not in the context of this specific question.
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