iserious said:... realizing that my goal is to up the density in the highlights (on the negative) so as to hold back light, restraining them from getting too dark (on the print) as the shadow areas darken...
The common practice is to get enough density in the thin shadow areas of the negative to provide adequate detail and then develop the negative for proper highlight density.
However, don't assume the higher contrast filter is just making the dark tones darker. It is also making the light tones lighter at the same time.
Generally, if you lower the contrast after determining proper exposure time for the highlights in a print, you typically need to retest and increase the exposure, and vice versa with higher contrast filtration. This exposure compensation is for both highlights and shadow print values, not just one end as your original question implied.
The 2 paper layers in a VC paper are sensitive to either blue or blue-green light so the blue/yellow complimentary pair or bluish-green/magenta pair will affect the layers differentially.
iserious said:Joe,
First off, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough and informative post. This is precisely the type of information I was looking for.
I have several questions regarding some of the points you make, and I've parsed your post to better organize my thoughts.
This is the traditional approach and assumes (rightfully so) that shadow detail is essential to the photographer's envisioned final print. However as we all know, there are many variations on the traditional approach, as was encouraged by Ansel Adams himself. In my case, shooting (or perhaps "striving for") dramatic portraiture, I aim to depart from the literal and produce high contrast images that some might say border on illustrations. In my very modest experience, this is done by pushing film to the limits. Thus, shadow detail gives way to a preference for skin tones and important highlights. I've found that tailoring the dynamic range of the negative to this particular effect gives the photograph a glow that seems almost surreal
I assume that the reason that you are achieving this effect is that you are effectively mismatching the camera density range to the papers exposure scale and the net effect is that you are increasing local contrast in the process. It has been over twenty years since I got into Ansel Adams writings very heavily and I don't recall that he spoke much about local contrast. He seemed to be pretty well entrenched in the box of overall contrast.
One can achieve this mismatch that I speak of in one of several ways. The first is what you alluded to in pushing the film to it's limits...that would expand the density range of the negative beyond the exposure scale of the paper... pushing the shadows down the scale and spreading the contrast in the mid and upper tonal scale.
The same thing can be accomplished by increasing the contrast grade through filtration or using a harder grade paper.
Had you posted the foregoing statement last night, perhaps I would've gotten some sleep! I just spent the better part of the last few hours trying to figure out why "Print A" (print exposed for 11s @ f/8 with filtration #4) didn't have identical skin tones to "Print B" (print exposed for 22s @ f/11 with filtraion #5).
I think that if you review the literature on your enlarger, you will find that Saunders advises that exposure time remains constant for grade one to grade four...above grade four the times increase. I own a 4550 VCCE EXLG and this hold true on my enlarger.
I'm using a Saunders VCCE 4550 enlarger, and I paid a hefty sum for it after the sales rep gave me a run down of it's "magical properties" of Variable Contrast Constant Exposure. Yea... "Constant Exposure" my foot!
Point addressed above.
Could you recommend a rule of the thumb so to speak that would help give me an idea of the shift in tone with added filtration? Perhaps some empiracle formula or percentage?
While this doesn't follow Ansel Adams teachings, I recommend that you buy a Stouffer calibrated step wedge and determine the exposure scale of your paper at various filtration grades. Once you have determined the paper characteristics, you will know what a given negative density range will perform in what way on the paper at a given contrast grade.
Also, in what proportion would you say that "upping the contrast filtration" makes the "lights lighter" to making the "darks, darker" and vice-versa ?
While this will seem to fly in the face of what has been said by some here, my experience with the Saunders enlarger that you use indicates that once the high tonal values are established through the exposure time by the enlarger they do not shift much at all from grade one to grade four. The low values will become more pronounced as contrast grade filtration is increased. In other words the papers scale will shorten as contrast filtration is increased. The shortening predominantly occurs in the lower tonal scale. That is what my experience indicates. It has been verified by densitometric evaluation of the materials.
This same result holds true in my Durst condenser enlarger with contrast printing filters too.
Might I ask that you elaborate on this? Perhaps with an example (step by step).
Thanks again for taking the time and for your insights.
Suzanne Revy said:I'm not sure I understand the science, ...
When you use a higher contrast filter, ... it
takes less exposure to reach black ...
Does that make sense?
Photo Engineer said:VC papers have two emulsions in them. One is a high contrast emulsion sensitive to one color of light and the other is a low contrast emulsion sensitive to another color of light.
leeturner said:One question related to something PE mentioned in one the replies. Using a dichro head is a true grade 5 possible or is it as PE mentioned around a grade 4? I've just got hold of a set of VC filters and will be comparing the filter to the suggested dichro filtration and calibrating using the results. Does this vary between enlarger brands and if max magenta is not a true grade 5 does this also hold true for max yellow?
gainer said:The same way it happens when you change from #1 to #3 graded paper and keep the mid tone the same. The light gets lighter and the dark gets darker. That is one way to define increased contrast.
Donald Miller said:...Now if someone were to use contrast printing filters, and did not do densitometric evaluation of the filters, the seeming effect would be that both high values and low values are altered with shifts in contrast grades. This may be due more to changes in filtration density then characteristics of the papers emulsions. My tests indicate that the scale is shortened from the low values upward...
gainer said:I designed an easel meter ...
iserious said:Just sheer curiosity here...
I'd love to understand the science behind it.
gainer said:I designed an easel meter that reads a tiny spot...
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