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I've been thinking about the way that I shoot, and if I were to ask myself the same question, I'm not sure I could answer it on the spot. So I'm curious how others shoot.

What I mean by this is: what does into your image capture? Is it primarily on the fly? Do you seek out subjects or images with intent? Does taking the image depend on things like contrast, color, or leading lines?

It's taken me almost two weeks to use up a roll of 36exp TriX, and I'm wondering if I'm thinking TOO MUCH about what I'm taking. And when I decided to "just shoot", I left the damn lens cover on.

Don't just respond and say something like "I shoot what I like when I see it." I'm really looking for the critical things that others do.
 

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I have projects that I want to work on, and I also try to be open to inspiration that appears on the fly.
But I'm not you.
Be open to what works for you, and be open to discovering new things that might work for you.
I will say though, projects are a great way to learn about yourself. Just be open to the projects evolving as you go.
 
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I have projects that I want to work on, and I also try to be open to inspiration that appears on the fly.
But I'm not you.
Be open to what works for you, and be open to discovering new things that might work for you.
I will say though, projects are a great way to learn about yourself. Just be open to the projects evolving as you go.

I get that.

But what aspects determine whether you'll trip the shutter or not?
 

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I get that.

But what aspects determine whether you'll trip the shutter or not?
Whether the image either fulfills a requirement, or personally resonates with me.
The latter comes from looking at the world, and looking at other images, and recognizing what I respond to.
The former has, in the past at least, depended on things like what looks nice in a wedding album, family portrait or catalogue shot.
 

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It’s always the same: a tingle in my heart
 

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That's an intriguing question! I find that I shoot in different ways, which often depend on what equipment I'm using.

If I'm using medium format or large format gear I'm MUCH more deliberate in shooting. Although I rarely use LF these days due to cost, my Hasselblad, Rollei, and Super Ikonta are among my favorite outfits. If I'm going out on a specifically photographic journey, my eye is constantly looking for objects or settings that please me in some way, by virtue of textures, angles, juxtapositions, etc. If I'm in an urban setting, I'll generally find some design element that is pleasing and wait for an interesting looking person to enter the scene and position themselves. For instance, a few weeks ago (pre COVID-19) I was going for a mid-day walk when I saw a long, curved metal bench made of slats. The shadow of the 23 story building across the street was falling in such a way that it bisected the S-curve of the bench at a pleasing angle, and a strong cloud pattern was showing in the reflective surface of the skyscraper. So I set myself up with a 50mm on my Hasselblad. And waited. And waited. I stood there for more than a half hour waiting for someone to sit down on that bench. I finally shot it as a still life, but it would have been so much better if someone interesting had come along and sat down on the S-curve. If I'd been shooting 35mm, I would have probably tried more variations on that still life theme, switching lenses, positions, and angles. I wasn't able to return to that spot before the lockdown, but I'll go back and try it again sometime.

Whether I'm in the city or on a hike, I generally look for interesting textures, shapes, and juxtapositions, whether manmade or natural, before composing an image in the viewfinder. I often use a spot meter to visualize the final effect of the brightness range on the scene, and place the values accordingly, taking a few minutes to work out the angles, camera position, and lens (if I'm using a camera with multiple lenses, of course...). If I can't find something that pleases me in the viewfinder, I often move on without pressing the shutter on medium format expeditions. If I'm shooting 35mm or digital, I'm much more inclined to take a couple of imperfect shots and hope to get the image I visualized through post processing through crops, tonal adjustments, etc.

That deliberateness is exactly what brought me back to film from being all digital for several years. I like working slowly and exploring possibilities when I see something that interests me, and it's all part of the artistic process. In this way, it's kind of like fly fishing; I can have a lovely day of fishing and never get a nibble or an enjoyable walk through the city or woods without ever pressing the shutter.

Thanks for making me think about it!
Andy
 
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It’s always the same: a tingle in my heart

"Don't just respond and say something like "I shoot what I like when I see it." I'm really looking for the critical things that others do."
 
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Thanks for making me think about it!
Andy


YW! I've been out and about shooting, but for some reason I've been stuck and overly hesitant to shoot anything for fear it'll just be gray. Through the quarantine we've only been out on trails and such which are either monochromatic browns in the wooded areas, or greens in the green spaces. I don't have filters yet, so I've just elected to not shoot anything, even if there was something that struck me. But mostly, there's just nothing that I want to shoot.

But I've got to get these rolls in and out of the camera, otherwise I can't refresh my memory on how B&W film acts.
 

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It all depends. Sometimes I have projects in mind long before I ever load the film. Sometimes, I just snap on the fly something that catches my eye. Sometimes I'll plan something out in advance, get it all ready to go, and abandon it for something I see on the fly that I like better. Sometimes I'm shooting stuff on the fly, and get inspired to set up a controlled shoot. Sometimes I select the film I want to use. Sometimes I try to figure out a way to use the film I have best.

The main thing that determines whether or not I'll trip the shutter is money. I figure out how much it's going to cost me to use and develop that shot, and ask myself is it worth that much to me. So with a digital camera, I usually just spray and pray. No reason not to. Even when setting up a planned shot where everything is staged and controlled, I'll still rattle off a hundred shots that are nearly identical. With a large format camera, I'll take it a lot slower and study the scene in greater detail before I even get the camera out. Usually, unless I'm in a studio, I'll have more than one format available, and I'll pick up whichever one I think brings the most value to the image I have in mind.
 

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YW! I've been out and about shooting, but for some reason I've been stuck and overly hesitant to shoot anything for fear it'll just be gray. Through the quarantine we've only been out on trails and such which are either monochromatic browns in the wooded areas, or greens in the green spaces. I don't have filters yet, so I've just elected to not shoot anything, even if there was something that struck me. But mostly, there's just nothing that I want to shoot.

But I've got to get these rolls in and out of the camera, otherwise I can't refresh my memory on how B&W film acts.

When I'm out in nature on a grey or monochromatic day, I generally look for texture first of all. My wife and I were out walking at a lake on a warm but cloudy day in January and I had a few shots left on my Hasselblad. Not my finest work, but I did find things to shoot.

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I have a few on going projects. I also shoot stuff on the fly. It's all about composition...all the elements and principles of design working together (although I get off on line!), and the type of light on the subject. When I go out, I usually have large format, 120 (RB67, Holga, Holga Pinhole, and dslr) with me. I decide pretty quickly which format I'll use... Yesterday, I went out with only the pinhole because I knew that is all that I would need for a particular shot I wanted.

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"Don't just respond and say something like "I shoot what I like when I see it." I'm really looking for the critical things that others do."

Well it’s really technical at first. Correct placement of all the elements, including mine. And then, there’s a definitive tingle when I like what I see.

That’s the soul element in a picture. No tingle, no good photograph.

in this case, it all started to sing when the guys in the background lined up and created a clear arrow cutting the image in 2, from top left corner to bottom right (the guy’s face).

That’s the tingle, when suddenly it all works. Usually lasts a second. This is how my photography works and this is how I introduce the element of feeling.
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yes, my photography is very technical. The borders are there to show how I compose. The untrained eye thinks they random shots of people. An experienced eye sees all the work.
 
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in this case, it all started to sing when the guys in the background lined up and created a clear arrow cutting the image in 2, from top left corner to bottom right (the guy’s face).
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Ok, so in this particular case, I gathered the lines made you trip the shutter. Do you always look for lines, whether consciously or unconsciously?
 

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Ok, so in this particular case, I gathered the lines made you trip the shutter. Do you always look for lines, whether consciously or unconsciously?

No. It was all about making the fat guy photo a more artistic image than just a depiction of a fat guy. In this case, it was the line. In other instances it would be to balance all 4 corners, and so on.
 

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I have several ongoing projects going on, but also have an eye out for any subject and composition that interests me. Format has some little influence...somewhat more deliberative with LF and MF, much freer with 35mm, and often use subminiature as a notebook.
One cannot be stingy with film. Unlike a sketch or painting, there is no eraser for making corrections or improvements. You either get the picture you envisage, or you don’t. Which means a lot of pictures that get away compared with the keepers. So what! The fun is in the quest. LF has better success because more effort in laying the trap.
 

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My work has been project based since the mid to late 1980's. That doesn't mean I don't shoot outside projects but it does however makes me think why do I want to shot this or these image, and what will I do with them. Often I think they may spark a new project, and a just a few have.

I'd recommend reading Michael Freeman's Achieving Photographic Style I'm not a fan of Freeman's books but this one is a look at various well known photographers work and all shoot on a project basis.

How we work on projects differs (and has to, in my case one is ongoing after 30 years, others a couple (ended up with an Exhibition) another I set myself five years before a major exhibition,. But you could have a project for a day, a weekend or a month, it's however you want to work. Back in the 70's I had a days project photographing Fungi - OK my Professor had given me some rolls of High Speed Ektachrome but I had to record what we found collectively.

It's about setting targets and goals, but not being afraid to change boundaries either.

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My work has been project based since the mid to late 1980's. That doesn't mean I don't shoot outside projects but it does however makes me think why do I want to shot this or these image, and what will I do with them. Often I think they may spark a new project, and a just a few have.

I'd recommend reading Michael Freeman's Achieving Photographic Style I'm not a fan of Freeman's books but this one is a look at various well known photographers work and all shoot on a project basis.

How we work on projects differs (and has to, in my case one is ongoing after 30 years, others a couple (ended up with an Exhibition) another I set myself five years before a major exhibition,. But you could have a project for a day, a weekend or a month, it's however you want to work. Back in the 70's I had a days project photographing Fungi - OK my Professor had given me some rolls of High Speed Ektachrome but I had to record what we found collectively.

It's about setting targets and goals, but not being afraid to change boundaries either.

Ian


Day projects, weekend projects, months, or years... Never thought about it like that. And I've never set out on a day of shooting with a goal in mind, which may be why I'm not seeing anything.

Thanks Ian! Your post is definitely a spark of inspiration.
 

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Don't just respond and say something like "I shoot what I like when I see it." I'm really looking for the critical things that others do.

Sorry to disappoint you but I think that's the way it works for many people, myself included.

Here's a quote from Henry Wessel that I think sums it up nicely:

"I don't go out looking for pictures. I go out, and if something catches my eye, that's reason enough to photograph it."

I don't personally have any sort of project in mind when I go out with my camera, I'm not looking for anything in particular - I think I would find that approach too limiting. But I do think I am fairly picky about what I shoot and I can walk around all day without ever pressing the shutter.

One thing I try and avoid is repeating myself. I think it's very easy to find a formula that you think works and then follow it repeatedly and end up with many of the same photos. If I look through the viewfinder and see a photo that is very similar to something I've shot before then I don't press the shutter.

I'm certain things like the light, texture, the composition of a scene, etc. all play into the subconscious decision making that goes into deciding whether or not to press the shutter. I'm sure my mental state on any given day is a factor too.

I'm not sure that this was that helpful to you...
 

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I feel a tingle too, but usually it ends up just being gas. You can tell by looking at my photos.
 

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At the risk of hopping on a favorite hobby horse, questions like this are themselves a really good argument for printing your work - whatever process and materials you choose.
There is nothing that informs better the photographer's "eye" than taking the result one gets from the camera and turning it into a final product, suitable for viewing.
It is a really helpful, iterative loop. You see something that resonates, you turn it into a print, you look at the print and then you gain information, experience and perspective about the initial steps of the process.
It is the most important component of the "visualization" (or pre-visualization" if you are Minor White) part of the Zone System - way less important than the merely technical tools that people like to argue about on sites like Photrio.
It is not impossible to get a lot of similar benefit from uploading to a web portal, but prints do a much better job at assisting you with building the necessary observational tools about what works in the two dimensional world called photography.
 
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Sorry to disappoint you but I think that's the way it works for many people, myself included.

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It works for me that way as well, and in a digital world I would have just shot. However, with film loaded in the camera I'm much more critical and hesitant, even with 35mm.

But lately, when I feel the tingle, I'll get ready to shoot, and then pull back because there's a presumed lack of contrast. Or, there aren't any leading lines. Or the sky is just going to be over-exposed white. Or everything is just going to be a deep gray because its mostly greenery.
 

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I photograph when I have a project or photographic composition that I want to photograph OR when I am traveling. I no longer wander around with a camera looking for something to photograph.
 

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Don't let any of the so-called "rules" stop you from taking a photo. The "rules" are only useful if you use them to understand what might resonate for you and others - they shouldn't be used to mandate what you do.
 

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Hi Christopher:
Tripping the shutter I do sometimes, other times I just watch. I often make photographs like others who have responded because. have a few projects I am working on. Other times, it might be because there was something, a composition thing, or something else that caused me to push the button. Other times its because I just like seeing how something looks as a photograph or a negative. I have a few cameras that are old box cameras and you can't really compose or see through the milk glass, I just point and shoot and wonder what the camera will make the exposure of. When I said sometimes I just watch .. I meant that sometimes its too easy to let life pass by looking at it through a viewfinder. I know that time never repeats but rhymes so im guessing that something might sort of repeat itself, and if not I don't really care cause I saw it and remember what I saw.
Regarding the rules, nothing bad really happens with photography when you break the rules, so once in a while color outside the lines, you might be glad you did.
 

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Yes-measure twice, cut once.
 
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