+1, and, for me, the best of all was my teenage granddaughter, who owns a digital SLR, asked me, the other day, to please show her how to shoot film. AND HOW TO DEVELOP the film in my darkroom. It doesn't get much better than that.....Regards!
+1, and, for me, the best of all was my teenage granddaughter, who owns a digital SLR, asked me, the other day, to please show her how to shoot film. AND HOW TO DEVELOP the film in my darkroom. It doesn't get much better than that.....Regards!There were always people on both sides when they saw me using film, but most were diehard digital users trying to tell me something was wrong with me for using it - as if they needed me to switch in order to justify their own choices. It never bothered me that someone used digital. What bothered me was when someone tried to turn the two choices into a pissing contest, quoting marketing material, and demonstrating no true understanding of the digital tech (which, being in IT, I understand quite well).
It has been very interesting over the past 5 years - I get much less of the above, and more people who think it is okay, or even cool, that I still use film. More people accept my choice and want to talk photography in general, regardless of what they use.
This is very understandable. The pixel wars are all but over, the push to convert people to digital cameras has diminished, and people who use digital cameras are getting flack about not using a cell phone in the same way I got flack for not using digital.
Perhaps it comes up in conversation. Who thinks telling people one uses film necessarily implies one always broadcasts it without solicitation?Who tells people they shoot film? Why? Not something I volunteer unless asked.
Do you go out in public with a Camera.?Who tells people they shoot film? Why? Not something I volunteer unless asked.
I think the weirdest case with this i've ever head was a guy walking up and telling me, 'theres no reason to use that anymore, digital is really good nowadays'. ...
... most were diehard digital users trying to tell me something was wrong with me for using it - as if they needed me to switch in order to justify their own choices. ... What bothered me was when someone tried to turn the two choices into a pissing contest ...
They sometimes think I can’t afford a digital camera.
In light of the recent reply to Sirius by Adorama, perhaps an equivalent reply would be, "I've used digital in the past but decided to upgrade my photography."
That is SO true. My hobby is shooting models, and a lot of them literally have never heard of film before or worked with anyone using it. A few of them have commented after the shoot, though, that they enjoyed the experience of working with someone who takes the time to set up every shot rather than rattling off loads and selecting the best one from hundreds.A lot of the young ones don't know what film is.
Or, worse: that you are too old, too technically incapable, or too feeble minded to use a digital camera.
Of course. Maybe I am too absorbed in what I am doing and they don't want to bother me.Do you go out in public with a Camera.?
I get asked "the question" all the time.
This is the one that cranks me up. As if letting a computer make the 50 decisions that have to be made every time you trip the shutter was too complicated. And I've been writing software since before the internet was called the internet!
I started programming in October 1963.
Prior to the availability of online banking, I had a bank teller make a $250,000+ error on my lawyer's trust account that caused me all sorts of grief, so I appreciate having online banking access that permits me to independently check what happens to my accounts.I don't do online banking, either - the bank clerks look at me and treat me as if I'm some dinosaur incapable of logging on to a computer and using the internet. Then I tell them where I worked and what I did for the last 40+ years...
I don't do online banking, either - the bank clerks look at me and treat me as if I'm some dinosaur incapable of logging on to a computer and using the internet. Then I tell them where I worked and what I did for the last 40+ years...
I find it hard to fathom the number of insufferable, clueless dweebs who exist out there with digital cameras hanging about their necks with no clues about the history of the craft that got them to that point. What, surely they've seen older issues of National Geographic? Tell them to grab any issue at random from the 70s, 80s, or 90s -- and try to find fault with the photography within its pages. Hell, tell them to be honset and ask them if they can match the quality of the photography in those pages. Hah. Idiots.
... The Lomography movement may have done a certain amount to ensure a continuing demand for film and cameras but equally it's contributed to a latter day obsession with artsy lens flare, light leaks and colour casts and for creating the impression that film is inherently unreliable - ...
I find it hard to fathom the number of insufferable, clueless dweebs who exist out there with digital cameras hanging about their necks with no clues about the history of the craft that got them to that point. What, surely they've seen older issues of National Geographic? Tell them to grab any issue at random from the 70s, 80s, or 90s -- and try to find fault with the photography within its pages. Hell, tell them to be honset and ask them if they can match the quality of the photography in those pages. Hah. Idiots.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. There are legions of people out there (many young, but quite a few theoretically old enough to know better) who are so unthinking and whose pool of cultural and historical knowledge is so shallow that they just don't get this. The Lomography movement may have done a certain amount to ensure a continuing demand for film and cameras but equally it's contributed to a latter day obsession with artsy lens flare, light leaks and colour casts and for creating the impression that film is inherently unreliable - rather than the mature, highly developed imaging medium that the World relied upon for a century or so and until only about 15 years ago.
The history has nothing to do with it. A person using a digital camera is perfectly capable of making great photos with current equipment without needing to know the ins and outs of film development or wet plate processing. They are also very capable of appreciating photos made with older equipment without needing to know how they were made. National Geographic photos of the 70s and 80s are great, perhaps what is more interesting is that all those photographers whose photos filled National Geographic then are still there today shooting digital. Checkout McCurry, Lanting, Vitale, etc...I find it hard to fathom the number of insufferable, clueless dweebs who exist out there with digital cameras hanging about their necks with no clues about the history of the craft that got them to that point. What, surely they've seen older issues of National Geographic? Tell them to grab any issue at random from the 70s, 80s, or 90s -- and try to find fault with the photography within its pages.
Hell, tell them to be honset and ask them if they can match the quality of the photography in those pages. Hah. Idiots.
The operative word in cooltouch's post is "clueless", not "digital".The history has nothing to do with it. A person using a digital camera is perfectly capable of making great photos with current equipment without needing to know the ins and outs of film development or wet plate processing. They are also very capable of appreciating photos made with older equipment without needing to know how they were made. National Geographic photos of the 70s and 80s are great, perhaps what is more interesting is that all those photographers whose photos filled National Geographic then are still there today shooting digital. Checkout McCurry, Lanting, Vitale, etc...
Can you?
Crap photos of cats can be made with Kodachrome, Portra, a Canon 5D or even some 100MP medium format digital.
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