How do people print?

Helen B · Oct 18, 2006

What print methods do you all use for hybrid work?

I have three inkjet printers - a colour 2200 that uses normal Ultrachrome inks from the 4000, a B&W 2200 driven by IJC/OPM that uses K3 inks from the 4800 with diluted R800 blue and Krystal Topkote, and an R800 for run-of-the-mill stuff. I also get stuff printed onto Fuji CA. I'll probably swap the colour 2200 for a 3800 when it comes out.

Best,
Helen

naturephoto1 · Oct 18, 2006

Hi Helen,

I print everything from my transparencies on a big Chromira machine with the ability to print larger on a LightJet. If need be, we have the capabilities to print large inkjet prints as well.

Rich

Robert Hall · Oct 18, 2006

I use all sorts of things. I like Costco. I use an epson 7600 and a 9600. I was going to get a 7800 but now that the new smaller printer is out that can use both inks, I will wait for the next gen that perhaps would do that with a wider carriage.

Baxter Bradford · Oct 19, 2006

Just bought an Epson 7800. Previously using a Epson 1290 with Lyson Fotonic CIS and an 1160 with Lyson Small Gamut for B+W pictures.

Paper- Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308gsm. But also Torchon and a few others like Crane Museo on rare occasions.

craigg · Oct 19, 2006

I use an Epson R2400 with the K3 inks. Anything larger is done on a Chromira. Also use a Kodak Dye-Sub for some proofs etc.

jimcollum · Oct 19, 2006

Most of my prints are platinum over pigment, using Epson 7600 and Pictorico OHP for the negatives, COT 320 as the substrate, and a 2:1 Pt/Pd mixture, printed ala the Ziatype process.

jim

ann · Oct 19, 2006

at this time, any print that i decide is worth printing out, *from digital capture* i have made by someone who really knows how to print and has the proper eqiupment.

I am hesitant to buy a printer until i have a better sense of what i want to do and accomplish.

The number one on my hybrid list is digital negatives for alter process.

Bob Carnie · Oct 19, 2006

I print traditionally on enlargers to ciba, Ra4 negative process and Fibre .
As well I am printing platinum and cyanotype with a Nuark exposing unit.
Digitally I print with large format Epsons to rag paper.
as well I have a Lambda digital printer and I print all of the above medias*except ink jet * with it ..
I am beta testing FP4 large roll film in the Lambda to create enlarged digital negatives for alternative printing.

Bob Carnie · Oct 19, 2006

Jim
Are you suggesting that you print full colour inkjet , and then coat platinum over the pigment prints? If so this sound exciting.It sound a bit like the reverse of what Kerik does with gum over platinum.

jimcollum said:
Most of my prints are platinum over pigment, using Epson 7600 and Pictorico OHP for the negatives, COT 320 as the substrate, and a 2:1 Pt/Pd mixture, printed ala the Ziatype process.

jim

Jordan · Oct 19, 2006

I keep it very simple. Epson C86 with MIS-EZ inkset in refillable cartridges for archival B&W. For colour, I take the files to a local Frontier/Noritsu lab. I'm currently looking for a good solution for inkjet negatives (Pictorico OHP doesn't respond too well to the MIS pigment inks).

clay · Oct 19, 2006

For my hybrid workflow, 90 % film capture->scan->either inkjet or imagesetter neg-> gum-over-platinum. The other 10% is digital capture of some type.

michaelsalomon · Oct 19, 2006

epson r2400 for all my color work - been playing with printing b/w on the r2400.
I used epson premium lustre and the epson velvet papers.

dmr · Oct 19, 2006

I am currently using an old hand-me-down HP 720.

I know this is not the best, a newer printer is on my wish list, but this one actually does very decent prints as long as you feed it a clean, exactly sized, 300dpi image. If you make it scale at all, either up or down, the results can be very nasty.

jimcollum · Oct 19, 2006

yup, although i can't take credit for the process. An article in Camera Arts by Brad Hinkle caught my attention, which led me to Dan Burkholder's site. Dan can be credited for the development of the process. Most of my images are on the opposite side of the Velvia saturation curve, and this process de-saturates them further (partially as a side effect of printing inkjet on watercolor paper, the other on a CMYK conversion which reduces the overall gamut of the color image). The First link has an example of the color layer of the image in it.

jim

sample1

sample2

bob carnie said:
Jim
Are you suggesting that you print full colour inkjet , and then coat platinum over the pigment prints? If so this sound exciting.It sound a bit like the reverse of what Kerik does with gum over platinum.

BillSchwab · Oct 19, 2006

bob carnie said:
Jim
Are you suggesting that you print full colour inkjet , and then coat platinum over the pigment prints? If so this sound exciting.It sound a bit like the reverse of what Kerik does with gum over platinum.

I've done it this way Bob abnd it works very well. Problem is there is still the metamerism. I get color shift under different lighting conditions... even with the platinum overcoat. This drives me crazy and prevents me from doing much more with the process.

Bill

jimcollum · Oct 19, 2006

What inkset have you been printing with? i've been using both the 7600 ultrachrome, and playing with the new 2400 and the K3 inks, and haven't seen metamerism at all

BillSchwab said:
I've done it this way Bob abnd it works very well. Problem is there is still the metamerism. I get color shift under different lighting conditions... even with the platinum overcoat. This drives me crazy and prevents me from doing much more with the process.

Bill

jd callow · Oct 19, 2006

Up until a few months ago I had a 1280 with color pigmented MIS and a 1200 with a 6-set grey/black.

Both printers died. I am currently without printers and darkroom.

BillSchwab · Oct 19, 2006

jimcollum said:
What inkset have you been printing with? i've been using both the 7600 ultrachrome, and playing with the new 2400 and the K3 inks, and haven't seen metamerism at all

I'm using the ultrachromes on my 2200. Perhaps I am being over sensitive, but it is there.

Bill

Peter De Smidt · Oct 19, 2006

Epson R2400 with MIS K4 Inks. I use either Epson Premium Semi-Glos or Museo Silver Rag for prints.

ann · Oct 19, 2006

jordan,

glad to see your using an 86, i got a c88+ and am using MIS black inks.

have just started to play around , not completely satisfied, but that has to do with the user.

I have found that Paul Roark on black and white digital printing to be very helpful, and am using his infromation .

BillSchwab · Oct 19, 2006

ann said:
I have found that Paul Roark on black and white digital printing to be very helpful, and am using his infromation .

Paul is the best. I worked with him and MIS as the first beta tester of the inkset on a wide format printer. I can't tell you how many times I filled, purged and refilled that 7600. I developed a lot of the early curves for the UT7. Still have them if anyone has an interest. It was an arduous process... and in the end, I have all but abandoned it for the digineg->platinum process.

Bill

Bob Carnie · Oct 19, 2006

Jim

Really georgeous images, I think I will be proceeding in a colour gum over platinum, but wow, really nice stuff.

BillSchwab said:
I've done it this way Bob abnd it works very well. Problem is there is still the metamerism. I get color shift under different lighting conditions... even with the platinum overcoat. This drives me crazy and prevents me from doing much more with the process.

Bill

Jordan · Oct 19, 2006

bob carnie said:
Jim
Really georgeous images, I think I will be proceeding in a colour gum over platinum, but wow, really nice stuff.

I have to agree with Bob. Jim's images look amazing. Platinum over inkjet, I wouldn't have even thought it possible... I bet they look even better in "real life".

donbga · Oct 19, 2006

Jordan said:
I have to agree with Bob. Jim's images look amazing. Platinum over inkjet, I wouldn't have even thought it possible... I bet they look even better in "real life".

They do, at least the ones I've seen.

Don Bryant

BillSchwab · Oct 19, 2006

Don Bryant said:
They do, at least the ones I've seen.

They are really beautiful Jim. They are really fun to do as well. That "instant" gratification is nice to have in this case as opposed to the gumover process. Check out some of the ones Burkholder has done as well.

B

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