.... What I don't care for is the macho associations that have accrued to it [street photography] , and the derivative nature of so many of the images....
If you look at any Street oriented forum or group - you'll have to find them for yourself I'm not flagging them up - discussion is peppered with snark and four letter words. The majority of street photographers are male and under 50. Stylistically and technically, a few choices predominate. There are exceptions, of course.interesting. Please elaborate.
What macho associations have accrued ?
...and derivative nature? examples please and how is that objectionable?
I am sincerely interested.
If you look at any Street oriented forum or group - you'll have to find them for yourself I'm not flagging them up - discussion is peppered with snark and four letter words. The majority of street photographers are male and under 50. Stylistically and technically, a few choices predominate. There are exceptions, of course.
Street photography does not lend itself to the market place, generally speaking. Photos that are hard to take and difficult to look at, are not the kind of thing most people hang on their walls. Even big names in the genre sell books in the hundreds, for the most part. SP is a niche market, if you want to make money from photography don't go anywhere near it.I've never met a street photographer who has managed to sell a print, so I guess it's not a problem to some.
I am sure that there are many types of SPs -- and forums will attract the more aggressive personalities and chase away the less so. It happens here, too, so one must be careful generalizing about practitioners of a genre based on forums.If you look at any Street oriented forum or group - you'll have to find them for yourself I'm not flagging them up - discussion is peppered with snark and four letter words. The majority of street photographers are male and under 50. Stylistically and technically, a few choices predominate. There are exceptions, of course.
without knowing the context of Don McCullin's photo (when and where it was taken, what if any relationship he had to the subject) it's impossible to judge.What about my style of 'street photography', where I take pictures of people from behind, often showing just part of them? Or just photography closeup of something / someone 'on the street'?
And what about Don McCullin's use of a very tightly cropped face of a homeless man, that is used on at least one of his book covers. Could that be considered intruding into the mans life?
Just a few thoughts.
Terry S
I agree with BradS, but if you don’t know how you feel on this topic, Donald, it’s well worth thinking it through before pursuing publication or sale.
An entertaining way to get smart on this is to search for “first amendment audits” on YouTube!
I've never met a street photographer who has managed to sell a print, so I guess it's not a problem to some.
As blockend mentioned it is a niche market and most of the buyers will be other street photographers who appreciate the style, chances of any subjects ever even coming across a picture of themselves is very unlikely and then they may not even be bothered. Costs a lot of money to sew someone, so you want to be sure its worth it.LOL. Just before C-19 happened I met my ex-company, ex-customer, who is full time photog now. He is selling huge prints with street photography he takes in Europe. We both have to cancel our trips to Europe now.
And just recently I watched streetphoto youtube channel where photog was selling his street series.
I also have signed book from Chicago street photog I was happy to meet in 2019. He has several exhibitions already.
This thread is so typically total amateur. LOL.
As blockend mentioned it is a niche market and most of the buyers will be other street photographers who appreciate the style, chances of any subjects ever even coming across a picture of themselves is very unlikely and then they may not even be bothered. Costs a lot of money to sew someone, so you want to be sure its worth it.
I was taking a photo once and a guy walked into my shot and put up his hand and shouted don't shoot! Shot anyway as you would and he come up to me threatening to call the police if I didnt delete the photo, tried to explain that it was a film camera and I couldn't delete an individual picture, didn't understand, kept on arguing, so I looked at the back of my 1957 range finder, pretended to push some buttons, said its gone and he walked away.....all part of the excitement.
Happy to do street photography as an amateur, have a job don't need another, but am always surprised at how many seem to want to sell pictures or are waitingto be discovered. Think they should probably work on their marketing and worry less about getting sewed.
Costs a lot of money to sew someone, so you want to be sure its worth it.
My late dear friend Louie Stettner sold many pictures taken on the street. Even some of his most memorable portraits were taken as street photography. His talent and skill were the ability to assess subject, see composition and immediately raise camera to eye...all within a split second. I don’t remember him ever having a model release form with him. He also tried to show a subject’s dignity.I've never met a street photographer who has managed to sell a print, so I guess it's not a problem to some.
This thread is so typically total amateur. LOL.
Some street photographers have innovative ways of selling their work. Eric Kim, for instance, sells a street photography starter kit that contains his own portfolio.
If that bothers you, why are you bothering to reply?
Yes, I'm an amateur -- from "amatore", someone who does something for love, not for money. Even if I ever manage to make a living from photography (vanishingly unlikely, and more so every year as I get older and the time left for it shortens), I hope to still be an "amateur." Were you never an amateur yourself? Or were you somehow forced into photography by an accident of fate, to get the bills paid, and never actually enjoyed it?
Well, clearly that won't work unless your name and work are already fairly well known. "Should I buy this starter kit from Eric Kim?" "Who's Eric Kim?" isn't an exchange that will pry a lot of money out of people's wallets."
Amateur in terms of been totally clueless about street photography regulations. You are amateur in this regard by posting speculations and spreading fear in OP. I replied, because I knew more about street photography regulations than you. It just a matter been not so lazy and google about it before posting. This is difference between total amateur and been smart.
for all the street photographers out there, maybe one of the best I have ever had the privilege of seeing his work it is Colin Corneau, a contributor here on photrio.com/ apug.org. seasoned photojournalist, absolutely .. just beautiful work. always with intent, and kindness, empathy and a good heart.
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