How can I achieve these effects on my negatives?

[Stuarrt]

Hey guys!
I'm looking for advice on how I could achieve this affect on my negatives.
I'd like to start doing cyanotype work, so I'm looking for a nice overlay to get a trippy 60s vibe
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[jim10219]

The trippy sixties vibe that looks a bit like that was created using mineral oil and water, plus water soluble dyes and oil soluble dyes. Since oil and water don't mix, you lots of weird shapes and colors that way. Then they'd place them in between a pair of round glass dishes and set it on an overhead transparency projector and manipulate the top dish to create the movement. Clock faces work well for the round glass dish. You might could try something like that, and then photographing the results.

Or, you could try exposing your negatives to various chemicals and see what happens to them. I'd probably play around with some oils and solvents to see what does what. Maybe even try some dyes. Just be sure do it in the dark, and don't send them out to be processed. Those extra chemicals could screw up everyone else's negatives that get developed after yours. So you'd want to develop them yourself and throw away the chemicals when done so not to contaminate other negatives. It would probably be good to start off with small test strips and see what does what.

 

[removed account4]

hello stuarrt

im not exactly sure how you can organically get those colors in your negatives
but with regards to transfering that sort of vibe to your cyanotype work i might be able to help there ...

if you do a full washed cyanotype it is vivid prussian blue
if you take a dilute mixture of washing soda and water ( or even baking soda and water )
you can paint it on your paper and wash it and add it and wash it.
you can use rubber cement to paint on the print so areas don't get changed that you want to remain the same
and you can add color with paint or crayon &c to get whatever coloration you want ...
no clue what is going on in the image you uploaded. it might be cross processed and "enhanced" using photoshop or something
so it isn't nearly as in camera as you might think .. unless you see the film or print first hand, sometimes you don't really know what is going on..

good luck!
john

 

[Stuarrt]

The description of the picture was "In this 2 day workshop students learned to manipulate the surface of 16mm film using a variety of direct film-making techniques; painting, scratching, collage, and masking in order to create an experimental animation." if that helps at all.

I really like the idea of using mineral oil in glass. I'm definitely going to give that a try. Was thinking I could also use a lava lamp as well. I'll head down to Value Villlage in the next week to try and find some glass

The rubber cement idea is good too!
I haven't done a lot of darkroom stuff so I'm pretty eager to give it a go.

 

[AgX]

One also may take a look at the offer of Revolog films.

 

[jim10219]

The description of the picture was "In this 2 day workshop students learned to manipulate the surface of 16mm film using a variety of direct film-making techniques; painting, scratching, collage, and masking in order to create an experimental animation." if that helps at all.

I really like the idea of using mineral oil in glass. I'm definitely going to give that a try. Was thinking I could also use a lava lamp as well. I'll head down to Value Villlage in the next week to try and find some glass

The rubber cement idea is good too!
I haven't done a lot of darkroom stuff so I'm pretty eager to give it a go.

I use liquid food coloring (which is a water based dye) and liquid candle was dye (which is oil based), and then used the mineral oil and water to thin them out. The food coloring can be found in most grocery stores and the candle dye in most craft/hobby supply stores.

Besides the rubber cement (or I'd use Frisket because it has less of an odor, but rubber cement should work just as well), you could also try wax as a resist. Maybe experiment with some bleach or other household cleaners.