How are these printed?

apetrovich35 · Dec 1, 2005

http://www.uknet.com/gallery/Signedpics?page=1

Not sure what paper/film they're using but these photos have a very nice smoothness with dark tones. Could they be optical or digital? Transparency or negative film? hmmm..

Andy K · Dec 1, 2005

Without seeing the actual photographs it is impossible to tell.
However, seeing as it is a business selling 'signed' photographs, the chances are they are ink reproductions. Generally these are crappy inkjet reproductions. I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.
If you want to buy signed photographs of the famous, go to a recognised agency and not some half-arsed 'collector' selling using Paypal.

apetrovich35 · Dec 1, 2005

Andy K said:
Without seeing the actual photographs it is impossible to tell.
However, seeing as it is a business selling 'signed' photographs, the chances are they are ink reproductions. Generally these are crappy inkjet reproductions. I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.
If you want to buy signed photographs of the famous, go to a recognised agency and not some half-arsed 'collector' selling using Paypal.

I don't mean what the seller will ship me, I mean the scans you see right there before your face. These look like real photofinished prints, I doubt they're inkjet. I have no interest in buying them, I just want to see if anyone knows how they're printed because I want this kind of tonality and depth in my prints too.

MurrayMinchin · Dec 1, 2005

Hmmm...those are some stunning images alright. I can't make my mind up which I'd like my prints to look like...soot & chalk, pasty grey, or comic book colour.

Are you for real, or for $$ ?

Murray

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

MurrayMinchin said:
Hmmm...those are some stunning images alright. I can't make my mind up which I'd like my prints to look like...soot & chalk, pasty grey, or comic book colour.

Are you for real, or for $$ ?

Murray

Oh jeez.

MurrayMinchin · Dec 2, 2005

Seems there's the acrid scent of spam in the air...

Try www.apug-gallery.com to see photographs with real meat to them.

Murray

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

MurrayMinchin said:
Seems there's the acrid scent of spam in the air...

Try www.apug-gallery.com to see photographs with real meat to them.

Murray

I'm not spamming dude, it's just a legitimate question. I don't even care for the photos on this site I just like the forums.

MurrayMinchin · Dec 2, 2005

OK...just to be sure of this...did you mean to post a link to a site selling signed gawd-awful 8x10 publicity shots, or did you mean to post a link to another site?

APUG is normally a pretty friendly place, where any and all who share an interest in analogue photographic processes are accepted...spammers are not.

Murray

Paul Sorensen · Dec 2, 2005

Another interesting issue is that you (or whoever put you up to this) are selling copyrighted materials that have been photocopied. Just because you can buy a photograph does not mean that you can sell photocopies of them. This is the case in the US and I am certain that this is equally true in the UK.

Oh, and did Angelina Jolie sign the one with her in a see through top or was it the photographer?

vet173 · Dec 2, 2005

Paul Sorensen said:
Another interesting issue is that you (or whoever put you up to this) are selling copyrighted materials that have been photocopied. Just because you can buy a photograph does not mean that you can sell photocopies of them. This is the case in the US and I am certain that this is equally true in the UK.

Oh, and did Angelina Jolie sign the one with her in a see through top or was it the photographer?

Just what I was thinking as I was going thru the thread.

Ralf · Dec 2, 2005

A gallery of autographed cards covering half a dozen decades. Most of them mass made by regular offset printing. What's the point in asking about tonality, print quality, digital and analog, transparency or neg film?!?

I'm pretty sure this one is entirely analog. "Forbidden Planet" was released in 1956

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

MurrayMinchin said:
OK...just to be sure of this...did you mean to post a link to a site selling signed gawd-awful 8x10 publicity shots, or did you mean to post a link to another site?

APUG is normally a pretty friendly place, where any and all who share an interest in analogue photographic processes are accepted...spammers are not.

Murray

I posted a link to another site (which is not mine) with photos and I want to know if anyone knows how the photos are printed!

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

Ralf said:
A gallery of autographed cards covering half a dozen decades. Most of them mass made by regular offset printing. What's the point in asking about tonality, print quality, digital and analog, transparency or neg film?!?

I'm pretty sure this one is entirely analog. "Forbidden Planet" was released in 1956

Are you sure? I doubt they're offset, when they give out these sort of prints (as the person is signing them) they have a glossy finish, and are real paper. Also look at the scans, they don't look offset to me, do they?

What's the point in asking? The point is I'm curious. Is there any professionals here that have done this kind of work (and know what they're talking about).

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

MurrayMinchin said:
Hmmm...those are some stunning images alright. I can't make my mind up which I'd like my prints to look like...soot & chalk, pasty grey, or comic book colour.

Are you for real, or for $$ ?

Murray

You can't differentiate between bad scans and good photos, these are obviously scanned horribly bad. You can even see the scan lines. The colors are way off in the scans but they're obvious they're great prints.

Mateo · Dec 2, 2005

Hey apetrovich,

Why don't you give us very specific details about your current printing technique and then we'll be able to tell you what exactly needs to be changed.

apetrovich35 · Dec 2, 2005

Mateo said:
Hey apetrovich,

Why don't you give us very specific details about your current printing technique and then we'll be able to tell you what exactly needs to be changed.

I drum scan all my negatives and print them on a chromira to fuji crystal archive paper.

Richard Man · Dec 3, 2005

Apetrovich35, pardon our skepticism. Your first post have a link to a commercial page and that you asked about how to print "like them" when the pictures on the site in question are fairly mandate, photographically speaking. May be if you post some of your pictures or other non commercial photographs on the web, people will be less skeptical.

Bob F. · Dec 3, 2005

Bottom line is that these are mass-produced studio stills. They will have probably been digitally manipulated and printed by the thousand on a lightjet, or output to a normal printing press if the quantities warranted the setup expense. None of which is within the remit of the APUG forums, as we are about hand printing from film.

If you want to discuss your film use, you are very welcome to do so, but scanning for digital output is not something we discuss in the main forums on APUG.

Cheers, Bob.

Jarred McCaffrey · Dec 4, 2005

A good approach is to link or post a single photo and discussions can happen from there. There are several different techniques and materials used in what you posted. Try picking just one and we can talk about it from there.

It shouldn't matter that X company is making offset ink postcards or whatever from the image. That's simply the reproduction of a finished work. I seem to remember that more than one photographer has reproduced their work in book form without sacrificing his analog soul. If the reproduction is reasonably accurate, we should be able to have a good discussion about tonal relationnships and techniques/materials that could be used to achieve the desired effects.

jd callow · Dec 4, 2005

Wow this thread is still going.
The prints are mostly crap.

From what I can tell by looking at the crap scans and having had some experience in this type of crap:
Some are made from dup's (dup's of the neg), others offset, some may be made from copy's (negs shot of the print). I don't think any are photocopied or inkjets -- although it is hard to say. Some may have been made from a fotoprint (early low res digital printer), but i doubt it, rhe newer ones were probably done on a frontier or similar, and some may actually be made from the original neg -- None are printed on anything nicer than RC or by anyone who cared about anything more than printing a ton of them.

Did I mention they are crap?

rhphoto · Dec 4, 2005

Deep tonalitites.
Umm, you mean the color ones? The B&W ones? The ones that look like they were cut out of magazines and Xeroxed? But you have to admit, Ms. Jolie is hottish.

rhphoto · Dec 4, 2005

apetrovich, joined three days ago, only posts so far are in this thread.

Omigod. It's Ornello Pederzoni!!!!

MurrayMinchin · Dec 4, 2005

Me-thinks he's buggered off...only 8 posts and they're all on this thread.

Me-thinks he's pulled up anchor and is now trying to drop his lure in more lucrative waters.

Me-thinks there's no sucker-fish in the APUG'ian Sea.

Murray

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