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Jon Allen said:

Hello from Manchester UK.
I started off with a Polaroid (still have one, a 680 and love emulsion lifts)when I was about 13 (1983) and was always fascinated by photography from back in the 70,s from family members using 6x6 or the Polaroid camera.
I wish I had not been put off by the teacher at the collage when I went to look at the photography course, who said there was no money in it as a career. I did want a career and earn money but I also wanted to learn the full art of photography. Sadly I didn't take the course as I needed to think of my future.
I still kept taking photos (most have long gone due to fire) and back in 2003 I moved on to digital and took to the art of digital photography and editing. It was a Canon 300D I bought and I still use it today now and then when I have some concept ideas I want to capture. Although I enjoyed digital especially the editing and studio lighting part I still don't feel like a photographer until I have learnt the art of developing.
A few years ago I went back to film as I missed the look of film and also I started to get lazy with my photography and started to get into that mode, I'll fix it in photoshop. . Glad I went back to it as it's slowed me down now and made me think before I pressed the shutter, especially with the price of film these days. My wife doesn't get why I've gone back to film though as she loves my editing, digital concept and portrait work. She doesn't see the look or skill involved with film.

I'm here to improve and learn more about photography and hope I can add something to the forum myself.

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Ricardo Miranda said:

Hello from London.
Sorry about the banter above.
You know that here in the "Eastend" we like to throw pots at each other.
Not much different form your Manchester's "Coronation Street", is it?

Welcome!

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Cholentpot said:

Thanks guys. This place is a wealth of information but it's blunted by 'Don't that, and this is why. I know because I designed that film and process.'

Me: Look, I know developing ECN-2 in expired C-41 at room temperature is not what the guidelines call for but help me out here...is it possible.

X1e7PhilmDesin: Well...why would you do that?

Me: I don't care why. Is it possible?

X1e7PhilmDesin: It's an abomination and wrong. I'm not telling you

Me: Anyone else?

ZZfilmorificZZ: You. Will. Not. Get. Optimal. Results. 11100100 100 10 01

Me: No shift, really?

X1e7PhilmDesin: We must sacrifice him on the alter of FILM!

2 weeks later

Me: I tried it and it worked!

X1e7PhilmDesin: Yes but is it repeatable and would you use it for a client.

Me: I use digital for clients for repeatable results. I shoot film for fun.

Everyone: Ban him! Burn the heretic!

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MattKing said:

Welcome:
There are lots of people here who will encourage experimentation. It is just that it is usually a lot more rewarding to experiment when one first understands the "proper" or "accepted" ways of accomplishing things.
If you can reliably accomplish "ordinary" you are much more likely to be able to accomplish "extra-ordinary" when that is what you desire.
Hope you have lots of fun here.
And by the way, most of us mix film and digital at least a little bit, and have no objection to anyone else doing so. We do prefer (and the site rules require) that APUG discussions avoid the digital stuff.

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Ricardo Miranda said:

Nah!

What this guy posted is a showcase of what is wrong with DIGITAL manipulation.
Look at that poor pirate girl: her face was airbrushed and now it looks like plastic.
And don't even get me started with that woman in red!

If that is considered good "photography", I would like to know what is a bad one!

Jon,
I'm sorry, but I don't like at all your work.
It is just software manipulation.
The only ones that are pleasant are the ones in B&W.
I would have liked better if they were taken on film.

I hope you learn and improve your aesthetic taste.

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jnanian said:

sorry none of the images look like plastic or over the top manipulated
i've seen plenty of "film" chromes IDK 25 years back that look exactly the same, heck
look at roger hicks " pro photography " portrait book
... these uploads show that the person who made them knew what they were doing

sorry to say this, ricardo but you are too much.

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Cholentpot said:

I think this was the aesthetic he was trying for. Critique is reserved for things like exposure, subject, balance etc...

To go after one's artistic vision is boorish.

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Ricardo Miranda said:

Hello from London.
Sorry about the banter above.
You know that here in the "Eastend" we like to throw pots at each other.
Not much different form your Manchester's "Coronation Street", is it?

Welcome!

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Valerie said:

Hello Jon, and welcome to APUG!

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