Hexar AF (NOT RF) ...how set it to EI 1200?

jtk · Nov 6, 2019

Lovely camera but I'd like to SET IT to shoot a higher EI...like 1200.

Is there a way to SET it to do that by default?

I think there's a button-pushing exercise that does that... can you explain how that works?

I'd rather set it to 1200 without pushing Hexar AF's mystery buttons.

Help?

miha · Nov 6, 2019

Sometimes our mind plays tricks on us

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...ctions-and-ideas-better-than-official.156271/

jtk · Nov 6, 2019

Thanks,..I do have various versions of Hexar AF instructions HOWEVER none of them seem to ALLOW the camera to shoot film rated 1200ei

What that means in practice is that if the light isn't enough light to make the camera happy, it simply won't shoot. Am I missing something?

awty · Nov 6, 2019

Ha
I read one of the Ken Rockwell how to....how bizarre

OPERATION

In PFL, if flash not yet recycled, Hexar too stupid to know and exposes as if the flash will fire.

KR

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Okay, this how it goes:

First make sure your camera is powered off.

Then:

1: Turn the aperture dial to F22

2: Turn the camera on and press SELECT. The display will show +/-0.0

3: Press SELECT again. The display will show [0]

4: Turn the camera off, then on. Do not press any buttons. Display shows [0]

5: Enter ROM with the exposure compensation buttons:

Press right button 1 time
Press left button 2 times
Press right button 3 times
Press left button 4 times
Press right button 3 times
Press left button 2 times
Press right button 1 time

The camera will rattle and buzz and the display will show the flashing number '232'

6: Turn aperture dial from f22 to f13 (between f11 and f16). Display shows A[38] Use the left exposure compensation button to go to A[00]

7: Turn aperture dial to f16. The display shows D[FB]

8: Set display to D[FA] with the exposure compensation button.

9: Power off. The display shows f16

10: Press shutter release button for 2 secs. f16 disappears, camera switches off

11: Press MF while turning camera on, and the display will show the much desired L[0]

It really works! My Hexar silver whispers, although I had to do the whole procedure twice because I made a little mistake which disabled all the other extra's like ABC and infrared focusing. Everything's working fine again though after following the instructions more carefully. Good luck, and remember that I can't be held responsible for camera's that stop working!

Does it read DX codes? You may be able to alter the code on the film canister to read 1200 iso.

Lachlan Young · Nov 7, 2019

jtk said:
Lovely camera but I'd like to SET IT to shoot a higher EI...like 1200.

Is there a way to SET it to do that by default?

I think there's a button-pushing exercise that does that... can you explain how that works?

I'd rather set it to 1200 without pushing Hexar AF's mystery buttons.

Help?

You can set any film speed you like, go into the aperture priority mode, press & hold 'Select' until the film speeds appear, then scroll through using the left/ right buttons to 1250, wait a few seconds till it sets & reverts to showing the exposure compensation, press 'select' once to exit back to normal operation. The camera remembers this for the entire roll. I use it to shoot Portra 800 at 1600 & TX at 200 + yellow filter (ie 100). Works consistently & reliably.

jtk · Nov 7, 2019

Lachlan, thanks.

I forgot about that routine. Konica might still be in business if they hired you to write their instructions.

macfred · Nov 7, 2019

There are manuals that are clearly worse than the Hexar manual.
For daily use one only needs their Quick Reference. It's in the thread linked in #2 too.
There are some 'secret hacks' on the Hexar but you won't need them.

Chan Tran · Nov 7, 2019

I don't know of any camera that can be set to 1200. 1250 yes but not 1200.

jtk · Nov 7, 2019

Macfred...that issue accounted by itself for my purchase of a Pentax NX20 DSLR a decade ago.

jtk · Nov 7, 2019

Chan Tran said:
I don't know of any camera that can be set to 1200. 1250 yes but not 1200.

Chan, I shot a lot of 400 film at 600 ...twice that is 1200. There's more to photography than click stops.

macfred · Nov 7, 2019

jtk said:
Macfred...that issue accounted by itself for my purchase of a Pentax NX20 DSLR a decade ago.

Never heard about that cam - there was a Samsung NX20 but it was mirrorless ...

Chan Tran · Nov 8, 2019

jtk said:
Chan, I shot a lot of 400 film at 600 ...twice that is 1200. There's more to photography than click stops.

But none of my cameras can be set to 600. They can be set to 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600 etc.. none can be set at either 600 or 1200.

macfred · Nov 8, 2019

Chan Tran said:
But none of my cameras can be set to 600. They can be set to 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600 etc.. none can be set at either 600 or 1200.

Chan, at this point and according to post #9, I assume this thread is not about setting ISO on a Hexar AF and not about ISO in general but about why we should replace our film-based cameras with a Scooby-Doo Mystery Machine …

Chan Tran · Nov 8, 2019

macfred said:
Chan, at this point and according to post #9, I assume this thread is not about setting ISO on a Hexar AF and not about ISO in general but about why we should replace our film-based cameras with a Scooby-Doo Mystery Machine …

In that case the subject tittle should be changed. For me I use digital because film prices, processing, chemicals are all more expensive and difficult to get. I still use film though. However, I find no different between my film and digital cameras. They all about the same.

jtk · Nov 8, 2019

Chan Tran said:
But none of my cameras can be set to 600. They can be set to 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600 etc.. none can be set at either 600 or 1200.

Chan, fyi ei isn't a camera "setting"...it refers to exposure in relation to intended development/processing. There's more to photography than cameras.

jtk · Nov 8, 2019

macfred said:
Never heard about that cam - there was a Samsung NX20 but it was mirrorless ...

Right, oops. I use both Pentax K20D and Samsung NX20. A Samsung NX500 ia on order (29mp sensor). .An adapter allows me to use my excellent Samsung and Pentax primes with the superior Samsung sensor.

Samsung recently quit cameras, much like Bronica and Minolta and Rollei and Konica ....(who's next?)

jtk · Nov 8, 2019

Chan Tran said:
In that case the subject tittle should be changed. For me I use digital because film prices, processing, chemicals are all more expensive and difficult to get. I still use film though. However, I find no different between my film and digital cameras. They all about the same.

There are easily seen differences between capabilities of film and average-good digital cameras, especially if you make prints larger than letter size... far higher detail resolution available on APS C format Vs 35mm. I shoot both, processing and scanning my own film and printing my own prints with Canon Pro10 printer.

warden · Nov 8, 2019

Chan Tran said:
I don't know of any camera that can be set to 1200. 1250 yes but not 1200.

I assume there is no practical difference between 1200 and 1250, but it begs the question if there is a camera that allows iso setting to any number you like? Let's say I'm an exposure genius and I know 1200 is horribly slow and 1250 is just too wicked fast, and my project demands iso1214 exactly. Is there a camera that would do that?

reddesert · Nov 8, 2019

The difference between EI 1250 and EI 1200 is 4 percent, which is less than the allowed tolerances for a correctly operating shutter. It is not something that one could notice, outside of using laboratory grade equipment, and the OP's request was reasonable.

Chan Tran · Nov 8, 2019

jawarden said:
I assume there is no practical difference between 1200 and 1250, but it begs the question if there is a camera that allows iso setting to any number you like? Let's say I'm an exposure genius and I know 1200 is horribly slow and 1250 is just too wicked fast, and my project demands iso1214 exactly. Is there a camera that would do that?

No camera I know of would do that and thus initially I said that is why the OP can't set his camera to 1200.

Chan Tran · Nov 8, 2019

reddesert said:
The difference between EI 1250 and EI 1200 is 4 percent, which is less than the allowed tolerances for a correctly operating shutter. It is not something that one could notice, outside of using laboratory grade equipment, and the OP's request was reasonable.

Actually when the marking is labeled as 1250 it really means 1290.

Chan Tran · Nov 8, 2019

You can also use it on DX and and tape the cassette so it would automatically set for 1250 (still no 1200).

jtk · Nov 8, 2019

Chan Tran said:
Actually when the marking is labeled as 1250 it really means 1290.

The metering numbers on cameras are camera conveniences. They don't refer to film. Film has ASA and DIN, but EI is individualistic, referring to an individual's own processing..

I used EI carelessly because I've never shot film at box speed. For example, I've usually rated 64ASA film (box speed)

GarageBoy · Nov 23, 2019

1250 will get you close enough

Hexar AF (NOT RF) ...how set it to EI 1200?

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